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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7821803" data-attributes="member: 6801845">My point is that the fluff for a druid could be considered just as restrictive, just more concise.&nbsp; &quot;Druids revere nature above all, gaining their spells and other magical powers either from the force of nature itself or from a nature deity. &quot;Yet I don't see many druids that seem to particularly care all that much about nature one way or another.&nbsp; New land being cleared?&nbsp; You could hear the crickets that are losing their home chirp.&nbsp; Living in a dense metropolitan area?&nbsp; No big deal.Clerics are supposed to be the conduits of a god's power that &quot;strive to embody the handiwork of their deities&quot;.&nbsp; Presumably the gods want something to happen that they chose a champion ... yet what the god may want never seems to come into play.&nbsp; Most of the time I'd never know what god a cleric worships if I didn't see their character sheet.I'm not trying to pick on you personally, this is pretty common.&nbsp; But saying that it would &quot;take someone special&quot; is indicative of an attitude.&nbsp; One that many DMs seem to share.&nbsp; Paladins must be held to a higher standard than any other PC.In any case, I'm not telling you how to run your game.&nbsp; That's between you and your players.&nbsp; Just pointing out that if you've banned paladins in the past because &quot;they were more trouble than they were worth&quot; that it would be an issue with the player, not the class.&nbsp; IMHO of course.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7821803, member: 6801845"] My point is that the fluff for a druid could be considered just as restrictive, just more concise. "Druids revere nature above all, gaining their spells and other magical powers either from the force of nature itself or from a nature deity. " Yet I don't see many druids that seem to particularly care all that much about nature one way or another. New land being cleared? You could hear the crickets that are losing their home chirp. Living in a dense metropolitan area? No big deal. Clerics are supposed to be the conduits of a god's power that "strive to embody the handiwork of their deities". Presumably the gods want something to happen that they chose a champion ... yet what the god may want never seems to come into play. Most of the time I'd never know what god a cleric worships if I didn't see their character sheet. I'm not trying to pick on you personally, this is pretty common. But saying that it would "take someone special" is indicative of an attitude. One that many DMs seem to share. Paladins must be held to a higher standard than any other PC. In any case, I'm not telling you how to run your game. That's between you and your players. Just pointing out that if you've banned paladins in the past because "they were more trouble than they were worth" that it would be an issue with the player, not the class. IMHO of course. [/QUOTE]

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