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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3319354" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Since we started up at 20th level, it was cheaper to spend the money on the Tomes than to be an entire level+ down for the number of inherent bonuses my PC started with.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not to my knowledge.</p><p></p><p>3 PCs times 7 Fort saves each to not lose one or more levels. With 21 rolls, the odds of not rolling one or more 1s is not good (34%, or each PC had a 70% chance of not rolling one or more 1s).</p><p></p><p>The problem was that we were on a different plane of existance, so the only solution that would definitely work was the two Restoration spells (0 XP) and one Greater Restoration spell (500 XP) that my PC had previously prepared. There wasn't even a guarantee that my PC (the only PC with strong divine spells) could repray for spells the next day.</p><p></p><p>It's all nice and well to say "Your Cleric should have had a Wand of Restoration to handle situations like this", but until the situation occurs, hindsight is more 20/20 than foresight. Running into a Dracolich that was also a 20th level Sorcerer with an Energy Drain breath weapon where the Fort save does not matter, only the Reflex save was quite unexpected (all of the PCs had good Fort saves, most did not have good Reflex saves).</p><p></p><p>And, I forget which spell required the 1000 XP. But, a single Wish (or some types of Miracle) spell at 20th level is still 5000 XP and still 25+% of a level. That is definitely substantial.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3319354, member: 2011"] Since we started up at 20th level, it was cheaper to spend the money on the Tomes than to be an entire level+ down for the number of inherent bonuses my PC started with. Not to my knowledge. 3 PCs times 7 Fort saves each to not lose one or more levels. With 21 rolls, the odds of not rolling one or more 1s is not good (34%, or each PC had a 70% chance of not rolling one or more 1s). The problem was that we were on a different plane of existance, so the only solution that would definitely work was the two Restoration spells (0 XP) and one Greater Restoration spell (500 XP) that my PC had previously prepared. There wasn't even a guarantee that my PC (the only PC with strong divine spells) could repray for spells the next day. It's all nice and well to say "Your Cleric should have had a Wand of Restoration to handle situations like this", but until the situation occurs, hindsight is more 20/20 than foresight. Running into a Dracolich that was also a 20th level Sorcerer with an Energy Drain breath weapon where the Fort save does not matter, only the Reflex save was quite unexpected (all of the PCs had good Fort saves, most did not have good Reflex saves). And, I forget which spell required the 1000 XP. But, a single Wish (or some types of Miracle) spell at 20th level is still 5000 XP and still 25+% of a level. That is definitely substantial. [/QUOTE]
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