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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9534481" data-attributes="member: 93670">Game of thrones countlessBabylon Kosh and a few othersBattlestar Galactica Starbuck&nbsp;and a couple others turned likely skin jobThe matrix neo trinity MorpheusLord of the rings gandalf the grey∆Doctor who... The first Many doctors, a few companions captain jack harnessLike every soap opera in existenceDeath is fairly common in &quot;other media&quot;.&nbsp; What is less common is permanent irreversible death, and that remains even more true in d&amp;d where death has been an almost soap opera level revolving door in so many editions.&nbsp; It's weird to ignore the fact that returning a PC from death is a matter of spending some gold on casting a spell or having it cast then build a case for purity of &amp; commitment to story that is the height of roleplaying based on a case that presents death as some permanent irrevocable thing in d&amp;d where rules and most setting make it a temp inconvenience. Doing that while pinning on the gm&nbsp; for filling the gap left by the removal of a core component of risk from play that is normally also a notable component of the setting itself.∆then returned as gandalf the white thanks to Ilúvatar?The sports ttrpg&nbsp; comment was about losing for that reason... But sure ...<a href="https://youtu.be/qQZPBFI5cc4?si=2nOoHJNOZMik2gja" target="_blank">Dale Earnhardt fatal crash @Datona</a>There's also a reason why boxing deaths went down drastically after the Marquess of Queensberry established rules in the 1800s &amp;why us style football banned appearing and a few other styles of tackle that resulted in quite a few broken necks</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9534481, member: 93670"] Game of thrones countless Babylon Kosh and a few others Battlestar Galactica Starbuck and a couple others turned likely skin job The matrix neo trinity Morpheus Lord of the rings gandalf the grey∆ Doctor who... The first Many doctors, a few companions captain jack harness Like every soap opera in existence Death is fairly common in "other media". What is less common is permanent irreversible death, and that remains even more true in d&d where death has been an almost soap opera level revolving door in so many editions. It's weird to ignore the fact that returning a PC from death is a matter of spending some gold on casting a spell or having it cast then build a case for purity of & commitment to story that is the height of roleplaying based on a case that presents death as some permanent irrevocable thing in d&d where rules and most setting make it a temp inconvenience. Doing that while pinning on the gm for filling the gap left by the removal of a core component of risk from play that is normally also a notable component of the setting itself. ∆then returned as gandalf the white thanks to Ilúvatar? The sports ttrpg comment was about losing for that reason... But sure ... [URL='https://youtu.be/qQZPBFI5cc4?si=2nOoHJNOZMik2gja']Dale Earnhardt [B]fatal [/B]crash @Datona[/URL] There's also a reason why boxing deaths went down drastically after the Marquess of Queensberry established rules in the 1800s &why us style football banned appearing and a few other styles of tackle that resulted in quite a few broken necks [/QUOTE]

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