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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9538739" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I don't disagree with this point, but I want to highlight that the process you are talking about is pretty fast in regards to DnD. If it isn't a story until it is created... but you are creating it moment to moment, you are creating story moment to moment. I keep reaching for analogies, because seeing it other contexts I think showcases why this is so absurd to me. Take cooking a dinner. If you claimed that you cannot cook a dinner, because Dinner only exists once it is finished being cooked.... that is nonsensical. The act of creating something is the process by which that thing is created, so saying there is no story in DnD until the events happen at the table, while accurate, doesn't mean that there is no story in DnD. And that is the claim that is being made. That there is no story in DnD, none at all, until someone looks back on a game of DnD and tells a story based on the events that happened at the table. It isn't Dinner until it is cooked, served, eaten, and then someone points out it was dinner to a stranger. That isn't how that works logically.Complete disagreement. I guess you could string together some philosophy about whether or not a story exists is only one person has read it, but this falls apart immediately in regards to DnD regardless. Because a GROUP of people create the story. So, a story doesn't exist if only the people who made and experienced it know about it? Then what are family stories? Do you not have a story of a family vacation if the only people who have been told the story are the people who were there and involved in making the story? It ONLY becomes a story when a non-participant is told? I don't think so. This doesn't make sense to me. Even if we accept the fact (which I don't) that a story or poem only read by its creator does not exist in a meaningful manner.</blockquote>

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