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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9543281" data-attributes="member: 6790260">I never said supplement.I want them to be in the DMG or PHB.To include a "0 level" in the DMG would be about a third of what I'm asking for. The other two thirds would be to: (1) Make the rules for that "0 level" robust enough that they can cover a spread of different possibilities, all the way from "you have nothing but raw ability scores, no racial stats, no class, no proficiency, nothing" to "you're almost a 1st-level character." This provides a spectrum of options. It would be especially nice if they came with tools to help with the squishiness that such characters might face, so that an experienced DM could use the same rules for introducing brand-new players without automatically putting those players in a meatgrinder as a consequence.and(2) Include "incremental advance" rules in the style of 13A. If you're unfamiliar with the system, you basically can pick up just one tiny piece of a higher character level: maybe a feat, maybe a ki point, maybe a spell slot, etc. You can't take flat attack or defense bonuses, but otherwise, the world is your oyster. Such rules make it extremely easy to spread out character advancement nearly as long as you might want, since you can now get (say) 1/10th of a level every few sessions, so you're still getting a feeling of clear progress even while the actual changes only come very, very slowly.13A included the latter rules in its single core book. While I'm aware that it isn't trivial to design rules, I can't imagine the above things taking more than 10 pages in total (and even that sounds terribly profligate). Yet including them would be incredibly useful to a wide variety of players--old hands and neophytes alike.</blockquote>

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