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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9543313" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Don't make assumptions about me and my tastes.For the record, I like both things, thank you very much. I want both of them in my experience. Moment-to-moment can be wonderful, but in isolation it can wear thin over time. Satisfying long-term story arcs are my real jam, that's truly what I love most, but even that loses some of its spice without a feeling of progression. Long-term story doesn't exist without the moments that make it up and the big changes that result from it; moment-to-moment dissolves like foam without a bigger structure in which those moments can cohere; progression and advancement has no weight, no value, if there isn't a context and a greater meaning behind them. I look for all three (though, again, the long-term story arcs with their delicious payoff are the part I love best).Whereas I hold that it is part and parcel of the experience, no less nor more than several other important things.Oh, no, it had everything to do with these DMs throwing whatever-they-felt-like at us. Hussar's Phandelver game was the first 5e game I had ever played that actually used a WotC-written adventure. To the best of my knowledge, every 5e DM I've had before this has been doing a home-grown campaign.One DM split the party but kept throwing full-party-size threats at us. Another, his first group had punched above their weight in a couple combats, so he was convinced that all 5e characters regardless of level were nearly unkillable, and thus threw stuff at us that repeatedly overwhelmed us until it eventually produced a (near-)TPK. The third just liked big, bombastic fights, I guess, but the net result was a TPK before 3rd level.Hussar's game was the first 5e game I've ever played where I actually managed to see level 5. Most of them fizzled out because players dropped out, so the campaign didn't last (this is pretty common with play-by-post games, though, so it's not really a knock against 5e in specific.) Of those that didn't fizzle out, the three above were the big flare-outs. And, before anyone gets all up in my grill about "strangers" and such? Two of the three campaign-ending meatgrinders above were run by people I consider friends. Both of whom I cautioned about starting at first level. Both of whom politely, but firmly, dismissed any feedback I offered on the subject. (Though I elected to stop giving such feedback after the second time a DM responded with barely-veiled hostility, of the "no, I'm not doing that, and you will not ask me about it again" variety.)</blockquote>

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