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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9545145" data-attributes="member: 6790260">No. And I'm really not sure where you draw the connection. The friend isn't TELLING me, &quot;We're going to lunch, and you won't take my money.&quot; Your description literally was the person telling the group, &quot;We will be doing this thing,&quot; which...as I said is logically equivalent to telling people that they aren't allowed to do anything else. That's literally what it means to tell people that they're going to do one specific thing. It necessarily means you're not letting them do anything else. Like that's literally the logical converse. &quot;For all X, if X is a player character, X is a Y&quot; is 100% logically equivalent to &quot;There does not exist any X, where if X is a player character, X is not a Y.&quot; By definition they are equivalent.Sure I do. I just expect to actually TALK with them about things, as opposed to them shoving it down my throat.Not one person ever mentions this. Ever. I've specifically pushed on this point every single time. It never comes up, no matter how hard I push. Hence, I can only assume that it doesn't happen. If people literally ever brought up anything at all about actually discussing things like adults who respect one another, I wouldn't get so annoyed about this specific thing!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9545145, member: 6790260"] No. And I'm really not sure where you draw the connection. The friend isn't TELLING me, "We're going to lunch, and you won't take my money." Your description literally was the person telling the group, "We [I]will[/I] be doing this thing," which...as I said is logically equivalent to telling people that they aren't allowed to do anything else. That's literally what it [I]means[/I] to tell people that they're going to do one specific thing. It necessarily means you're not letting them do anything else. Like that's literally the logical converse. "For all X, if X is a player character, X is a Y" is 100% logically equivalent to "There does not exist any X, where if X is a player character, X is not a Y." By definition they are equivalent. Sure I do. I just expect to actually TALK with them about things, as opposed to them shoving it down my throat. Not one person ever mentions this. Ever. I've specifically pushed on this point every single time. It [I]never[/I] comes up, no matter how hard I push. Hence, I can only assume that it [I]doesn't happen[/I]. If people literally ever brought up anything at all about actually discussing things like adults who respect one another, I wouldn't get so annoyed about this specific thing! [/QUOTE]

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