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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9549547" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>You can find it jarring all you want. But you pretty much never see an "action hero" trying to become an action hero during multiple movies or books. And while I know you don't play 5e, you have to know that the game does not expect level 20 characters to be "a bad-ass soldier". They expect them to be god-killers. They are inter-dimensional champions. So even if you want to start as a farm boy with a pig iron sword and a pot for a helmet (which if you take 5e character creation seriously, you literally cannot start that low down the totem pole) you still are leaving behind the Rambo level by early to mid-game. </p><p></p><p>And this is why your apples to apples comparison falls apart. Even a level 1 character is incredibly impressive compared to the common farm hand. This is why a level 1 fighter has a good chance on taking on two of the city guardsmen in a fight. It won't be an easy fight, but he can do it. And outside of a fight, he is a polygot with professional level training in at least 4 skills AND a trade. The type of people you would legitimately compare them to are not green-horns who are as likely to stab their foot as they are a stationary target. These are hardened warriors who have seen combat, mastered multiple weapon styles, and are deadly with anything they can grab.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9549547, member: 6801228"] You can find it jarring all you want. But you pretty much never see an "action hero" trying to become an action hero during multiple movies or books. And while I know you don't play 5e, you have to know that the game does not expect level 20 characters to be "a bad-ass soldier". They expect them to be god-killers. They are inter-dimensional champions. So even if you want to start as a farm boy with a pig iron sword and a pot for a helmet (which if you take 5e character creation seriously, you literally cannot start that low down the totem pole) you still are leaving behind the Rambo level by early to mid-game. And this is why your apples to apples comparison falls apart. Even a level 1 character is incredibly impressive compared to the common farm hand. This is why a level 1 fighter has a good chance on taking on two of the city guardsmen in a fight. It won't be an easy fight, but he can do it. And outside of a fight, he is a polygot with professional level training in at least 4 skills AND a trade. The type of people you would legitimately compare them to are not green-horns who are as likely to stab their foot as they are a stationary target. These are hardened warriors who have seen combat, mastered multiple weapon styles, and are deadly with anything they can grab. [/QUOTE]
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