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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Loonook" data-source="post: 5839387" data-attributes="member: 1861">I do love the ad hominen attacks... Let's go with the tricks of the fact that you really haven't addressed anything going against you.So we're going to go with Kilimanjaro.  40000+ individuals have attempted to climb per year... lets say that goes for the last seventy years.Let's go with the population at 1940 and just clear them off the table.  Yes, there are individuals who could have survived from 1940 who are 72 or above... But we will also allow that group to represent the increase since 2010 estimates.2.3 billion people existed before today's population 70 years ago.  Current population estimate 6.9 billion.9.2 billion people who have had the chance, if they were so inclined/able to afford it, to climb Kilimanjaro.  So 1/225000 of the total theorized +70yr world population have attempted the summit... this year alone.Over the last 70?  1/3,285.Now, let's give you the benefit of the doubt here, and say that 60% (per some estimates <a href="http://www.mtkilimanjarologue.com/planning/random/mt-kilimanjaro-how-dangerous-is-it-really.html" target="_blank">here </a> make it to the summit.  We'll cut that total in half.1 in 7000.  Over the populace of the whole world? More than one million served.And around 800 dead on the high side.  Now this doesn't take into account that there may be higher deaths one year or another, bad climbing seasons... But I'm weighing the numbers to your side of the argument.<a href="http://www.climbmountkilimanjaro.com/about-the-mountain/kilimanjaro-records/index.html" target="_blank">There are several summits at 80</a> including one that began their summit training by "climbing the 10 flights of stairs at the Rapid City Regional Hospital at the hospital whereshe volunteers".The fastest summit, for the record, is under 9 hours by an endurance runner/climber who climbs Kilimanjaro like you or I commute to work.  I think he's just deciding to do it for the lulz at this point, but ehh...By the by, our elder climbers use suggestions from those who plan climbs to Kilimanjaro on times, which sits between <a href="http://goafrica.about.com/od/tanzania/ht/htkilimanjaro.htm" target="_blank">6-8 days</a>.  The elders who climbed took... 8 and 6 days.Again I'm talking extremes on my side, and baselines on your side.  Individuals who summit usually go in small groups though of course you could solo.  I have no data on solo'ing for the elderly, but could be a possibility... Just no data on oldest solo climb.  For reference, our "ten flights of stairs" nurse only took her granddaughter with her.It is completely impossible for the over 85 sect, who make up <a href="http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=DEC_10_DP_DPDP1&prodType=table" target="_blank">5,493,433 or 1.8%</a> of the population to do such grinding, harsh things.  I mean, by the numbers there's a possible 784 individuals who are "summit ready".  Of course let us half that just for dementia, various physical ailments, etc. and we have 392 people who could pull it off.  I just don't think the old give too much of a damn about thrillseeking behaviors anymore.  <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2002/nov/09/local/me-passings9.2" target="_blank">Of</a> <a href="http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=441" target="_blank">course</a> <a href="http://www.leni-riefenstahl.de/eng/photo/p_unter.html" target="_blank">that would</a> <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/09/george-hw-bush-robin-mead_n_213327.html" target="_blank">be </a><a href="http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20110107-313036/At-80-worlds-oldest-clown-has-no-plans-of-quitting" target="_blank"> silly!</a>Slainte,-Loonook.EDIT: Of course, by your 'high XP' decisions, you are dealing with mid-level characters for most of these people.. You know, fighting multiple years as pilots, infantry, airmen, climbing mountains, diving into the depths, curing diseases...</blockquote>

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