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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 3338937" data-attributes="member: 11697">I think there might be better explanations for a number of vestiges, and honestly I think that there might not be a common explanation for their existance. For some vestiges, claiming a Far Realm connection seems absolutely nonsensical. Geryon being devoured by Asmodeus and having his essence consumed by either that archfiend or the plane of Baator itself... it'd be silly to claim the Far Realm is involved somehow. Karsus as well, we know exactly where his soul is fragmented and thus the cause of the quasi-life status he exists within, and so again it'd be silly to invoke a Far Realms connection.Some vestiges work perfectly well as dead gods, whose slumbering astral corpses lack enough worship to sustain a truly self-aware, conscious existance, but who possess enough lingering substance to be tapped by binders.Other vestiges seem best explained as petitioners, fiends, and other powerful outsiders who after being killed and having their metaphysical essence merge with or become devoured by their native plane, retain some flaw or too much personal focus to cease to exist independant of the plane at large. No longer truly independant extensions of the plane, they'd exist as scattered, diffuse fragments of their former self, only vaguely conscious but possessed of a harrowing desire to reclaim their former existance and taste what they lost. Binders with enough detail could exploit these remnants.A handful of vestiges might work as people trapped in the Far Realm, or killed there, whose souls because of their alien status in that other multiverse might continue to seek to return to the normal multiverse. That other reality might not be able to do anything with their essence as it might for beings native to it, and the process that normally happens to truly dead souls might fail spectacularly, leaving them as diffuse, partially aware wretches, seeking to reclaim what they lost, leaving binders with yet another opportunity to gain power.</blockquote>

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