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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 8498950" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>Well, I played BECMI D&D with some 5e players this christmas vacation. I sent several of them off crying and really upset.</p><p></p><p>The old school style of play that went with pre-WotC TSR didn't really work with their expectations. Combats were NOT balanced, and other expectations from 5e didn't actually work for them. Had several party wipes. </p><p></p><p>You can play 5e with the type of style (free wheeling, loose, adaptable) as old school D&D, but it became very apparant with the New School players I had that old school gaming where the old school harshness comes in is NOT something many of the newer players deal with easily or well. </p><p></p><p>If you never were a harsh campaign driver though, it probably could run similarly.</p><p></p><p></p><p>While one party wipe was with a low level party, the other was with a group around 7th and 8th level. Old School D&D can be a pretty harsh taskmaster if you run a brutal campaign.</p><p></p><p>Not everyone ran campaigns like that though (and though I ran one like that this weekend, I don't always run one like that either). </p><p></p><p>Story campaigns that didn't have harsh combat possibilities (if they engaged in combat) or troublesome situations during it, but instead focused on character growth and storylines were something that's been around since people started playing RPGs. That type of play I think could go very well with Old School and 5e, but as I found this weekend, players who started with 5e, or at least many of them, don't seem to take very well to the Old School, you can die at any time if you aren't careful, type gameplay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 8498950, member: 4348"] Well, I played BECMI D&D with some 5e players this christmas vacation. I sent several of them off crying and really upset. The old school style of play that went with pre-WotC TSR didn't really work with their expectations. Combats were NOT balanced, and other expectations from 5e didn't actually work for them. Had several party wipes. You can play 5e with the type of style (free wheeling, loose, adaptable) as old school D&D, but it became very apparant with the New School players I had that old school gaming where the old school harshness comes in is NOT something many of the newer players deal with easily or well. If you never were a harsh campaign driver though, it probably could run similarly. While one party wipe was with a low level party, the other was with a group around 7th and 8th level. Old School D&D can be a pretty harsh taskmaster if you run a brutal campaign. Not everyone ran campaigns like that though (and though I ran one like that this weekend, I don't always run one like that either). Story campaigns that didn't have harsh combat possibilities (if they engaged in combat) or troublesome situations during it, but instead focused on character growth and storylines were something that's been around since people started playing RPGs. That type of play I think could go very well with Old School and 5e, but as I found this weekend, players who started with 5e, or at least many of them, don't seem to take very well to the Old School, you can die at any time if you aren't careful, type gameplay. [/QUOTE]
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