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How on earth is this balanced?! Twilight cleric, more in-play evidence
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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8331441" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Using both 2017 and 2019 data from D&D Beyond the cleric isn't in the two most popular classes (fighter, rogue), but is very firmly in the next four (barbarian, cleric, wizard, warlock) which are all neck and neck. I don't know where your evidence that you need these bribes is. I also do know that you would have to pay me to play a champion fighter, but it's marked as the most popular subclass.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand <em>having </em>to say no about busted stuff isn't something I particularly want to be doing and avoiding this is part of what I pay the game designers for.</p><p></p><p>And as a DM I haven't faced a twilight cleric - but it (and the glamour bard) looks aggressively unfun for me as the DM. I'd far rather face high damage where things happen than I would high healing where combat gets drawn out. I'd far rather face high healing where things happen than I would an endless collection of hit points where things simply get no-sold.</p><p></p><p>Which is why Healing Word is a minor action in 5e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8331441, member: 87792"] Using both 2017 and 2019 data from D&D Beyond the cleric isn't in the two most popular classes (fighter, rogue), but is very firmly in the next four (barbarian, cleric, wizard, warlock) which are all neck and neck. I don't know where your evidence that you need these bribes is. I also do know that you would have to pay me to play a champion fighter, but it's marked as the most popular subclass. On the other hand [I]having [/I]to say no about busted stuff isn't something I particularly want to be doing and avoiding this is part of what I pay the game designers for. And as a DM I haven't faced a twilight cleric - but it (and the glamour bard) looks aggressively unfun for me as the DM. I'd far rather face high damage where things happen than I would high healing where combat gets drawn out. I'd far rather face high healing where things happen than I would an endless collection of hit points where things simply get no-sold. Which is why Healing Word is a minor action in 5e. [/QUOTE]
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