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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6836833" data-attributes="member: 6799649">Forgive me Li Shenron, this wasn't really aimed at you.I agree that a simplified game is useful for people who have never played before, but those training wheels should be taken off ASAP.There are a couple of themes in this thread that, I admit, press my buttons! The first is the old Stormwind Fallacy; the fallacious assertion that anyone who likes/is good at character optimisation in a mechanical/rules sense cannot be good at/like the role-playing aspect of the game. That any attempt at 'min-maxing' somehow demonstrates that they aren't a 'real' role-player. That any attempt at multi-classing/using feats, since they can be used to optimise a PC, that simply using these rules demonstrates that you aren't a 'real' role-player and therefore 'must' by using those rules for selfish, powergaming motives.This is, of course, total bollocks. A person can like or dislike these two aspects of our hobby independently. Indeed, the pure role-playing aspect of your PC may be better expressed by a multiclass PC, or a PC with a particular feat or feats.The second button is this: it is totally okay to have your own view about whether or not you like and want to use feats and/or multiclassing. Is anyone saying, "I like multiclassing, therefore everyone in my game must multiclass"? No, that would be absurd!But there are some who are saying things to the effect of, "I don't like multiclassing, I don't think it is needed to make a PC, therefore no-one else is allowed to multiclass, even if that other person can think of a good reason!"Y'know what? If you don't like feats/multiclassing, don't give your PC those features; I'm not saying you have to. But don't tell me what I can or cannot do based on your likes and dislikes! You make your PC, I'll make mine!</blockquote>

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