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Message: <blockquote data-quote="That One Guy" data-source="post: 4485536" data-attributes="member: 64672">Agreed. Much love for the Changeling. Lost and Dreaming.Anyway, on topic... Actually, while playing in a 4e game a friend convinced my old DM, my girlfriend, and myself to give DDO a shot. There was a thread on here a while back on DDO that I mentioned this in. Basically, DDO is a heckuva' lot better. But, I still am not going to pay to play it. But, my DM and I got into a conversation about how DDO was fun(ner than it used to be), but the mechanics of the game were bound to 3.x. It sort of made us both agree that 4e's mechanics are more fun (I had been on that side of the fence for a long time). We both agreed that 4e would make good MMO mechanics, but I would still prefer to play it in person. Tangent thoughts...Does it bother anyone else that the WotC party line is oddly true? The whole... 'it's made for fun now!'(tm) being accurate (this question is aimed at pro-4e people)? Also, how the flaws (I mean, things in the system that most pro-4e people disliked) of 3.x are so widely agreed upon. Do these things seem odd?</blockquote>