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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7060682" data-attributes="member: 97077">Another fine example of &quot;Don't bring your assumptions from one game into another game, even if they both happen to be called 'D&amp;D'.&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I handle it via the Social Interaction rules in the DMG. &quot;A friendly creature wants to help the adventurers and wishes for them to succeed.&quot; Whatever that means in context, which can vary. If a request of the charmed creature comes with cost or risk, there's a Charisma check. I think the smart play when fighting a group of creatures is to figure out which one is the leader or has the most pull and charm that one since it can then presumably exert influence of its comrades. If it's not obvious who the leader is, it may call for an Wisdom (Insight) check, on par with determining characteristics in a normal social interaction. I think how you handled it was just fine. As a player I'd be good with that - a 1st-level spell effectively removing a combatant? It's just as good as straight damage in most cases and sometimes better.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7060682, member: 97077"] Another fine example of "Don't bring your assumptions from one game into another game, even if they both happen to be called 'D&D'." :) I handle it via the Social Interaction rules in the DMG. "A friendly creature wants to help the adventurers and wishes for them to succeed." Whatever that means in context, which can vary. If a request of the charmed creature comes with cost or risk, there's a Charisma check. I think the smart play when fighting a group of creatures is to figure out which one is the leader or has the most pull and charm [I]that [/I]one since it can then presumably exert influence of its comrades. If it's not obvious who the leader is, it may call for an Wisdom (Insight) check, on par with determining characteristics in a normal social interaction. I think how you handled it was just fine. As a player I'd be good with that - a 1st-level spell effectively removing a combatant? It's just as good as straight damage in most cases and sometimes better. [/QUOTE]

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