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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Akrasia" data-source="post: 1971591" data-attributes="member: 23012">Well, since those blurbs are about the player's book (the PHB), I guess I read them as addressing players.  But you are right that they are vague, and so could lead people to think that the PHB is more like the Rules Cyclopedia than the traditional AD&D/D&D Players' Handbook.(Although, of course, one could run a complete C&C campaign with the PHB -- and just have the party fight NPCs!  Or use the free monster download as well, and never buy anything else.  Or the free SRD.  But yes, the PHB does not cover monsters...   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  )Frankly, I would have preferred it if TLG had gone the RC route, and produced a larger (though no doubt more expensive) 'all-in-one' book.But the fact that the PHB follows the AD&D and 3E tradition does not mean that it is not a 'viable' game, or that it is merely a 'fad' product.In any case, given how inexpensive the PHB is ($20 for a well bound hardback book), it is a great deal.  The Monsters and Treasures book will be $20 as well.  That means the entire (complete) system will be around $40.  (Since the CKG will be purely optional.)  Most 3E books cost almost that much now ($30-40 range), and the main 'stand alone' OGL fantasy game aside from D&D, Mongoose's Conan RPG, costs $50 (for one book). While nostalgia might be part of the appeal of C&C, what I object to (and, I assume, other fans of the system as well) is the idea that it is the game's only or primary appeal. 'Nostalgia' is not a necessary condition -- and certainly not a sufficient condition -- for liking the C&C system.  That the fact that is resembles 'old school' D&D will appeal to some players is undeniable.  But the game is more than some kind of 'Return to ... X' one-short gimmick.A person could have never played any version of pre-3E D&D, and still like the system. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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