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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5607600" data-attributes="member: 59506">I understand, it would be more complicated. And technically, a persons Move Silently and Listen scores would take into account knowledge of such things (and combine it into their scores as an abstract quantification).&nbsp;But, like some of the others above, I'd reccomend removing any mention of db levels and just using the sound descriptions in an increasing manner (whisper &lt; normal conversation &lt; military jet) with the associated DC modification. But then also include under your general conditions (where you have Range to Hear and Barrier to Hear):<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Consistent low to mid volume ambient noise level (white noise) = -10 to Listen/Notice Check DC (or +10 to Move Silently Check)</li>
</ul>Noticing a sound is about differentiating from other sounds. So it's as much what isn't there as what is there. A consistent background sound can make it much easier to notice someone. Sometimes even easier than if the environment was dead silent.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses&nbsp; &nbsp; B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 5607600, member: 59506"] I understand, it would be more complicated. And technically, a persons Move Silently and Listen scores would take into account knowledge of such things (and combine it into their scores as an abstract quantification). But, like some of the others above, I'd reccomend removing any mention of db levels and just using the sound descriptions in an increasing manner ([I]whisper[/I] < [I]normal conversation[/I] < [I]military jet[/I]) with the associated DC modification. But then also include under your general conditions (where you have [I]Range to Hear[/I] and [I]Barrier to Hear[/I]): [LIST] [*]Consistent low to mid volume ambient noise level (white noise) = -10 to Listen/Notice Check DC (or +10 to Move Silently Check) [/LIST]Noticing a sound is about differentiating from other sounds. So it's as much what [I]isn't[/I] there as what [I]is[/I] there. A consistent background sound can make it much easier to notice someone. Sometimes even easier than if the environment was dead silent.B-) [/QUOTE]

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