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<blockquote data-quote="Vael" data-source="post: 9038863" data-attributes="member: 57043">I've also been noodling around with a Summoner design, but I've not given the Summoner any built in spellcasting, aside from their Summoning Spell. They have their own version of Invocations and I repurposed the new Mystic Arcanum Invocation (but it's now any Conjuration spell from both Arcane and Primal spell lists), so they can cast spells, but only if they choose to. Another Invocation grants some cantrips and such. I've also given them a Channel variant that follows the same progression as the Druid's Channel Nature, and can be used to either heal or grant a large attack or defensive buff to their summoned pet. (They can also expend uses of Channel to recast any of those Mystic Arcanum Conjurations they know).What I've realized is I kinda have to flip the UA Warlock. The warlock picks a pact boon at first level that defines their strategy (A more castery Warlock picks Tome or Chain, a more fighty Warlock picks Pact of the Blade) and then their Subclass defines their Flavour (the type of Pact, Fiendish, Fey, etc.) ... my pass at the Summoner has to do the reverse. The first level feature ... Summoner's Call defines the type of creature they summon and therefore their flavour. Call of the Grave means you are summoning Undead, Call from Beyond ... Aberrations, Primordial Call for Elementals, Call of the Swarm, Call of the Dragon, etc. Then, Subclasses define strategy/playstyle. One Subclass for &quot;mounting and riding your summoned pet into battle&quot;, one for having a multiple summons, one for the Pokemon style (have multiple summons available but choose between them in battle), one for merging with one's summoned pet ...The thing that does now confuse me ... what class group does the Summoner belong to?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vael, post: 9038863, member: 57043"] I've also been noodling around with a Summoner design, but I've not given the Summoner any built in spellcasting, aside from their Summoning Spell. They have their own version of Invocations and I repurposed the new Mystic Arcanum Invocation (but it's now any Conjuration spell from both Arcane and Primal spell lists), so they can cast spells, but only if they choose to. Another Invocation grants some cantrips and such. I've also given them a Channel variant that follows the same progression as the Druid's Channel Nature, and can be used to either heal or grant a large attack or defensive buff to their summoned pet. (They can also expend uses of Channel to recast any of those Mystic Arcanum Conjurations they know). What I've realized is I kinda have to flip the UA Warlock. The warlock picks a pact boon at first level that defines their strategy (A more castery Warlock picks Tome or Chain, a more fighty Warlock picks Pact of the Blade) and then their Subclass defines their Flavour (the type of Pact, Fiendish, Fey, etc.) ... my pass at the Summoner has to do the reverse. The first level feature ... [I]Summoner's Call [/I]defines the type of creature they summon and therefore their flavour. Call of the Grave means you are summoning Undead, Call from Beyond ... Aberrations, Primordial Call for Elementals, Call of the Swarm, Call of the Dragon, etc. Then, Subclasses define strategy/playstyle. One Subclass for "mounting and riding your summoned pet into battle", one for having a multiple summons, one for the Pokemon style (have multiple summons available but choose between them in battle), one for merging with one's summoned pet ... The thing that does now confuse me ... what class group does the Summoner belong to? [/QUOTE]

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