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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8029121" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>No. The closest it comes is an appendix in UA that gives rules for pummelling</p><p></p><p>I agree with you about the relative ubiquity of the trope in that genre. And I don't think that OA is presenting chopsticks as a weapon in any way beyond that. If there was a trope in King Arthur stories of knights defending themselves with table forks then we would expect a weapon entry for that, but there's no such trope (and I think table forks are a later, post-mediaeval invention). But we do have an entry for <em>knife</em>, which is among other things a piece of cutlery.</p><p></p><p>I think the real complaint against OA is more along the lines of cultural appropriation, a lack of proper curation, etc. Which is a complaint about racist processes of cultural production but - even if sound - doesn't in itself establish that the work itself is racist.</p><p></p><p>I agree. Both that it would be sad and that it's not about nostalgia. There are a million-and-one RPGs that let us play various versions of northern, western and (sometimes) central European knights-and-castles. I would also like RPGs that let us play versions of Chinese and Japanese folk lore.</p><p></p><p>I think RPGs that present only those European tropes and folk-tales are not necessarily fair and welcoming to everyone.</p><p></p><p>Isn't FR still the best-selling setting for FRPGing? And it is chock-full of real world cultures.</p><p></p><p>I don't think it's possible to create serious fiction that doesn't present humans through some sort of real-world cultural lens. Perhaps if one is a literary genius, but most RPG designers are not.</p><p></p><p>Not every depiction of tropes from folk tales and popular culture is a racist stereotype.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8029121, member: 42582"] No. The closest it comes is an appendix in UA that gives rules for pummelling I agree with you about the relative ubiquity of the trope in that genre. And I don't think that OA is presenting chopsticks as a weapon in any way beyond that. If there was a trope in King Arthur stories of knights defending themselves with table forks then we would expect a weapon entry for that, but there's no such trope (and I think table forks are a later, post-mediaeval invention). But we do have an entry for [I]knife[/I], which is among other things a piece of cutlery. I think the real complaint against OA is more along the lines of cultural appropriation, a lack of proper curation, etc. Which is a complaint about racist processes of cultural production but - even if sound - doesn't in itself establish that the work itself is racist. I agree. Both that it would be sad and that it's not about nostalgia. There are a million-and-one RPGs that let us play various versions of northern, western and (sometimes) central European knights-and-castles. I would also like RPGs that let us play versions of Chinese and Japanese folk lore. I think RPGs that present only those European tropes and folk-tales are not necessarily fair and welcoming to everyone. Isn't FR still the best-selling setting for FRPGing? And it is chock-full of real world cultures. I don't think it's possible to create serious fiction that doesn't present humans through some sort of real-world cultural lens. Perhaps if one is a literary genius, but most RPG designers are not. Not every depiction of tropes from folk tales and popular culture is a racist stereotype. [/QUOTE]
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