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<blockquote data-quote="3catcircus" data-source="post: 6240830" data-attributes="member: 16077">When focused on non-magical healing, recovery rates ARE important.&nbsp; What if your GM runs a game where magic is severely restricted - such as in Dark Sun or Midnight?&nbsp; What if the game is a gritty one where magical healing doesn't exist at all?&nbsp; The healing surge / HD methods in 4e and the D&amp;DN playtest allow excessive non-magical healing of hit points in comparison to previous editions.And I would argue that:&nbsp; 1.&nbsp; You don't need a cleric.&nbsp; There are plenty of other options.2.&nbsp; &quot;Holing up for three days to heal&quot; IS fun if the DM uses that time appropriately to allow for non-combat in-game activities.&nbsp; Gotta go forage food and water for the invalid?&nbsp; Gee - we found something that needs investigating while out gathering water.&nbsp; Hey - while the cripple is healing up, I managed to finish crafting my +uber magic item!3.&nbsp; If you don't want to hole up and going any further is suicidal, that is a good time to run.&nbsp; The current mindset of the PCs are guaranteed to win and beat all enemies is, in my opinion, not fun.4.&nbsp; See #1.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="3catcircus, post: 6240830, member: 16077"] When focused on non-magical healing, recovery rates ARE important. What if your GM runs a game where magic is severely restricted - such as in Dark Sun or Midnight? What if the game is a gritty one where magical healing doesn't exist at all? The healing surge / HD methods in 4e and the D&DN playtest allow excessive non-magical healing of hit points in comparison to previous editions. And I would argue that: 1. You don't need a cleric. There are plenty of other options. 2. "Holing up for three days to heal" IS fun if the DM uses that time appropriately to allow for non-combat in-game activities. Gotta go forage food and water for the invalid? Gee - we found something that needs investigating while out gathering water. Hey - while the cripple is healing up, I managed to finish crafting my +uber magic item! 3. If you don't want to hole up and going any further is suicidal, that is a good time to run. The current mindset of the PCs are guaranteed to win and beat all enemies is, in my opinion, not fun. 4. See #1. [/QUOTE]

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