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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 8831895" data-attributes="member: 6677017"><p>Thanks for all the additional analysis and sample revisions!</p><p></p><p>In thinking about it more, I have some possibilities. The consumable component isn't really a balance factor at higher levels when you can use as much as you need. But it remains a psychological factor (at least in my group that is loathe to regularly use consumable resources). I'm thinking of making use of the "at higher levels" mechanism to play with the component, concentration, and magic damage, while changing the way the spell works as little as possible. Here is what I'm currently considering.</p><p></p><p>At 4th level it functions exactly as normal.</p><p></p><p>At 5th+ level, the component is not consumed unless you choose.</p><p></p><p>At 6th+ level, if the component is consumed it does not require concentration.</p><p></p><p>At 7th+ level it also works against magical bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing.</p><p></p><p>Here's what I think it should do in play.</p><p></p><p>It retains the customary component for thematic reasons.</p><p></p><p>The spell mostly becomes a 5th level spell now, at which point it is a strong but (hopefully) not overpowered spell.</p><p></p><p>It will remain a strong spell at 6th level due to the lack of concentration. Players with a normal aversion to consumable costs who have been using the 5th level version (without consuming the component) will be more likely to upcast it and use the component in situations where it is clearly an optimal choice, than they would have been to use the spell at all if not for the non-consumable 5th level option.</p><p></p><p>The 7th+ level is an uncommon situation, but when it comes up the spell is still strong.</p><p></p><p>I'm okay with it being strong, since I like seeing classic spells get use, as long as it doesn't dominate play and become the automatic choice, which is part of what I'm unsure about here.</p><p></p><p>How do you think the balance is on these proposed changes? Will it have the effects I'm anticipating, or some other effects?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 8831895, member: 6677017"] Thanks for all the additional analysis and sample revisions! In thinking about it more, I have some possibilities. The consumable component isn't really a balance factor at higher levels when you can use as much as you need. But it remains a psychological factor (at least in my group that is loathe to regularly use consumable resources). I'm thinking of making use of the "at higher levels" mechanism to play with the component, concentration, and magic damage, while changing the way the spell works as little as possible. Here is what I'm currently considering. At 4th level it functions exactly as normal. At 5th+ level, the component is not consumed unless you choose. At 6th+ level, if the component is consumed it does not require concentration. At 7th+ level it also works against magical bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing. Here's what I think it should do in play. It retains the customary component for thematic reasons. The spell mostly becomes a 5th level spell now, at which point it is a strong but (hopefully) not overpowered spell. It will remain a strong spell at 6th level due to the lack of concentration. Players with a normal aversion to consumable costs who have been using the 5th level version (without consuming the component) will be more likely to upcast it and use the component in situations where it is clearly an optimal choice, than they would have been to use the spell at all if not for the non-consumable 5th level option. The 7th+ level is an uncommon situation, but when it comes up the spell is still strong. I'm okay with it being strong, since I like seeing classic spells get use, as long as it doesn't dominate play and become the automatic choice, which is part of what I'm unsure about here. How do you think the balance is on these proposed changes? Will it have the effects I'm anticipating, or some other effects? [/QUOTE]
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