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Message: <blockquote data-quote="roger semerad" data-source="post: 8759952" data-attributes="member: 6998612">While I do have some criticisms for this idea, it does improve the even split multi without needing any additional design work.  So on a work vs. result basis, it's a solid idea.  My largest problem with the idea is that it wouldn't fix the big underlining issue with 5.0's multi-classing.  That being most class level combinations are very underpowered, while a select few are overpowered, with basically no in between.  I do think you pushed the level split about as far as you could, any farther and you'd start having more overpowered options than underpowered ones.  It also feels a little homebrewy, a little hacked together.  Not something I could see being in an official book.First off, a character made by rules like this would clearly be more powerful than a 5.0 equivalent.  That would break back compatibility and would be against the stated goals of the One revision.  That out of the way, as a basis of a multi-class system for a future real edition, this is a bit inspired.  All the multi-class systems for D&D to date really are just subsystems bolted onto a pre-existing game.  Even 4th's initial feat based system still felt like the class design came first and the multi-class system was bolted on after the fact.  Really, the best way to do multi-classing is to bake the necessary power into the class design itself.  Have the system built from the ground up to account for it.  Having an option to take a powerful specialization or instead use that power budget to multi-class is how I'd want it.  I don't know how the system as you describe it would work level by level, but here is one idea from me.  First, the next edition has no 5e style multiclassing.  Everyone picks a single class and at level one you also get to pick a subclass.   These subclasses would be very similar to 5th's, maybe a little more powerful.  Alternatively, you could choose to multi-class and every class entry would have a sub-class variant.  Then somewhere around level 8-12 you get to choose another even more powerful specialization, like the Archmage you mention, or you could choose to improve your multi-class abilities further.The real beauty of an approach like this is that you could keep the main books simple by not showing the multi-class options, and then release the multi rules in the DMG or even in a later supplement.  Is that really all A5E does to improve multi-classing?  I've got to say I'm very unimpressed.  The feats really don't do anything to make multi-classing beyond a few level dips worthwhile, and on top of that burn through your very limited feat/ASI budget significantly.  They're nice flavorful effects in and of themselves, but feel like sacrificing character power for flavor.  In a multi-class system that is already underpowered for most combinations.  If that's it for changes, then I'm really not feeling this one.</blockquote>

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