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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 9148456" data-attributes="member: 996">Spells should be organized first by Class, then Level, then alphabetically.As it was in the time of the beginning....&nbsp;&nbsp; j/kYes, I admit it, I started with 1e and that was how they were organized.&nbsp; Ima Grognard.&nbsp; But, in this instance, I believe I am right in spite of that.Seriously, when you are playing a character, and that character gets spells, the most convenient, easy to understand, least distracting way to figure out what you can do is to turn to a list of spells that you can use for your class and level, you have only had to read what you needed to play your character. An alphabetical list mixing together spells of all classes is the worst, you need to flip back and forth from your list of class spells, then look each spell up separately, every time you do, a cool/catch spell might catch you eye that you may never be able to cast. Now, admittedly, 5e recycles the same spells into more lists than back in the day.&nbsp; There might have been a couple few spells/level that would have to have a notation &quot;except as noted, the same as the Cleric spell of the same name&quot; (because the 1e PH did that, referenced back to spells already printed, and they started with Cleric.)&nbsp; Trying to do that with 5e would be a nightmare, since almost all the spells are shared.&nbsp; The Sorcerer's spell list would be nothing but references to other casters' lists!But, maybe your improvement of 5e improves that by having fewer classes or/and more spells for less sharing?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 9148456, member: 996"] Spells should be organized first by Class, then Level, then alphabetically. As it was in the time of the beginning.... j/k Yes, I admit it, I started with 1e and that was how they were organized. Ima Grognard. But, in this instance, I believe I am right in spite of that. Seriously, when you are playing a character, and that character gets spells, the most convenient, easy to understand, least distracting way to figure out what you can do is to turn to a list of spells that you can use for your class and level, you have only had to read what you needed to play your character. An alphabetical list mixing together spells of all classes is the worst, you need to flip back and forth from your list of class spells, then look each spell up separately, every time you do, a cool/catch spell might catch you eye that you may never be able to cast. Now, admittedly, 5e recycles the same spells into more lists than back in the day. There might have been a couple few spells/level that would have to have a notation "except as noted, the same as the Cleric spell of the same name" (because the 1e PH did that, referenced back to spells already printed, and they started with Cleric.) Trying to do that with 5e would be a nightmare, since almost all the spells are shared. The Sorcerer's spell list would be nothing but references to other casters' lists! But, maybe your improvement of 5e improves that by having fewer classes or/and more spells for less sharing? [/QUOTE]

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