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<blockquote data-quote="Corinnguard" data-source="post: 9264943" data-attributes="member: 7033886">Level Up's version of the Ranger class is something of a return to the class being more of a martial concept than a half-caster. They are more of a wilderness and exploration expert who has honed their skills of survival and combat in that RPG. <a href="https://a5e.tools/rules/ranger" target="_blank">https://a5e.tools/rules/ranger</a> There is only one Ranger archetype in Level Up that still is a Half-Caster, the Wildborn Ranger. In Pathfinder 1st edition, there is the Skirmisher archetype for the Ranger class, which replaced their spellcasting ability with Hunter's Tricks. <a href="https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger/archetypes/paizo-ranger-archetypes/skirmisher" target="_blank">https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger/archetypes/paizo-ranger-archetypes/skirmisher</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; If the Ranger had to be something of a spellcaster, it should be one where their magic is so subtle that most people don't think they are spellcasters. There was a YouTube clip where the author mentioned that Aragorn, believe it or not, was a spellcaster. His spells were so subtle that they were overlooked by everyone else. His spells appeared to others as a form of expertise. The problem here is that they want to have their cake and eat it too. Sure, a swordmage could be a fullcaster, but how do you keep their martial abilities relevant when they gain access to spells that can outdo what a martial can do?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Corinnguard, post: 9264943, member: 7033886"] Level Up's version of the Ranger class is something of a return to the class being more of a martial concept than a half-caster. They are more of a wilderness and exploration expert who has honed their skills of survival and combat in that RPG. [URL]https://a5e.tools/rules/ranger[/URL] There is only one Ranger archetype in Level Up that still is a Half-Caster, the Wildborn Ranger. In Pathfinder 1st edition, there is the Skirmisher archetype for the Ranger class, which replaced their spellcasting ability with Hunter's Tricks. [URL]https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger/archetypes/paizo-ranger-archetypes/skirmisher[/URL] If the Ranger had to be something of a spellcaster, it should be one where their magic is so subtle that most people don't think they are spellcasters. There was a YouTube clip where the author mentioned that Aragorn, believe it or not, was a spellcaster. His spells were so subtle that they were overlooked by everyone else. His spells appeared to others as a form of expertise. The problem here is that they want to have their cake and eat it too. Sure, a swordmage could be a fullcaster, but how do you keep their martial abilities relevant when they gain access to spells that can outdo what a martial can do? [/QUOTE]

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