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How situational was the Ranger's Favored Enemy intended to be?
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<blockquote data-quote="Arrowhawk" data-source="post: 5744459" data-attributes="member: 6679551"><p>In fact...</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">A ranger’s favored enemy bonus is based on knowing what the</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">foe is, so if a creature that is a ranger’s favored enemy polymorphs</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">into another form, the ranger is denied his bonus.</p><p></p><p>DMG 297.</p><p></p><p>The only way to interpret this is that FE damage results from having studied the creature over time and knowing how to kill it. For example, Skeletons are weaker at the hips, Ghouls have soft skulls, Ghasts have brittle bones, etc. If the enemy were disguised with an illusion to have a completely different form, I would rule no FE damage or other bonuses. One way to think of it is if a baseball were disguised to look like a football, an outfielder would not use his mit to catch the ball properly. If you think you are talking to an Orc, you're not looking for the same clues you would be if you were talking to a Dwarf.</p><p></p><p> lol. I think that's exactly why he gets the bonus as a Ranger and not because a Ranger told him how to do it. It also takes 5 levels to gain another +2 so it's not that easy to improve or to acquire a new FE</p><p></p><p> Well, if such a thing actually existed, maybe I could tell you. But I'm sure big game hunters in Africa know the material differences between killing a rhino versus a zebra.</p><p></p><p> That's a very odd perspective. If the FE ability were Su instead of Ex, maybe I'd share that opinion.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: </p><p>Let me quote you the PHB </p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">But more cunning and</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">powerful than these monsters is the</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">ranger, <strong>a skilled hunter and stalker</strong>. He</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">knows the woods as if they were his</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">home (as indeed they are), and<strong> he</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>knows his prey in deadly detail</strong>.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps you have not considered the ranger as a hunter?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arrowhawk, post: 5744459, member: 6679551"] In fact... [INDENT]A ranger’s favored enemy bonus is based on knowing what the foe is, so if a creature that is a ranger’s favored enemy polymorphs into another form, the ranger is denied his bonus.[/INDENT] DMG 297. The only way to interpret this is that FE damage results from having studied the creature over time and knowing how to kill it. For example, Skeletons are weaker at the hips, Ghouls have soft skulls, Ghasts have brittle bones, etc. If the enemy were disguised with an illusion to have a completely different form, I would rule no FE damage or other bonuses. One way to think of it is if a baseball were disguised to look like a football, an outfielder would not use his mit to catch the ball properly. If you think you are talking to an Orc, you're not looking for the same clues you would be if you were talking to a Dwarf. lol. I think that's exactly why he gets the bonus as a Ranger and not because a Ranger told him how to do it. It also takes 5 levels to gain another +2 so it's not that easy to improve or to acquire a new FE Well, if such a thing actually existed, maybe I could tell you. But I'm sure big game hunters in Africa know the material differences between killing a rhino versus a zebra. That's a very odd perspective. If the FE ability were Su instead of Ex, maybe I'd share that opinion. EDIT: Let me quote you the PHB [indent]But more cunning and powerful than these monsters is the ranger, [B]a skilled hunter and stalker[/B]. He knows the woods as if they were his home (as indeed they are), and[B] he knows his prey in deadly detail[/B].[/indent] Perhaps you have not considered the ranger as a hunter? [/QUOTE]
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