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<blockquote data-quote="LiL KiNG" data-source="post: 5796577" data-attributes="member: 83799">About to start a new game and I've got a grapple beast planned out (using oriental adventures) but even the 'Grapple Guide for Dummies' didn't help me understand pinning.Character;ECL 3 (monk 1 [stunning fist], fighter 1 [imp. grapple], feral template)regional feat: jotunbrud (powerful build, minus large weapons) - it is a houserule that regional feats are a bonus feat for PC's.level 1 feat: aberration blood [arms: +2 grapple]2 flaws/feats: choke hold, earth's embrace (OA version)brawler trait - we houseruled away with the IUS restriction and instead made it a -2 initiative modifier &quot;as you size up your opponent&quot;.so my grapple bonus looks like:+1 BAB, +1 brawler, +4 size/jotunbrud, +4 imp. grapple, +2 aberration blood, +7 str = +19 for grapple check.So I make a touch attack, or a claw attack with imp. grab, hit, then make opposed grapple checks (no AoO) - if I win I deal unarmed damage.&nbsp; Check.So how do I pin from here?&nbsp; Is it another attack roll to pin?&nbsp; If it requires another attack roll to pin, even though I only have a +1 base attack bonus my understanding of having claws means I could make two claw attacks in a round, does that count?&nbsp; How do I determine if I pinned for a full round - does that mean I have to win two consecutive grapple checks in two consecutive rounds?Can someone please lay out the step-by-step for pinning during a grapple for me please?Because right now I'm pretty sure I'm going to win a grapple check at our level... but what do I do once I've got a hold of them? ...aside from biting their ear off?Any help would be appreciated, thanks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LiL KiNG, post: 5796577, member: 83799"] About to start a new game and I've got a grapple beast planned out (using oriental adventures) but even the 'Grapple Guide for Dummies' didn't help me understand pinning. Character; ECL 3 (monk 1 [stunning fist], fighter 1 [imp. grapple], feral template) regional feat: jotunbrud (powerful build, minus large weapons) - it is a houserule that regional feats are a bonus feat for PC's. level 1 feat: aberration blood [arms: +2 grapple] 2 flaws/feats: choke hold, earth's embrace (OA version) brawler trait - we houseruled away with the IUS restriction and instead made it a -2 initiative modifier "as you size up your opponent". so my grapple bonus looks like: +1 BAB, +1 brawler, +4 size/jotunbrud, +4 imp. grapple, +2 aberration blood, +7 str = +19 for grapple check. So I make a touch attack, or a claw attack with imp. grab, hit, then make opposed grapple checks (no AoO) - if I win I deal unarmed damage. Check. So how do I pin from here? Is it another attack roll to pin? If it requires another attack roll to pin, even though I only have a +1 base attack bonus my understanding of having claws means I could make two claw attacks in a round, does that count? How do I determine if I pinned for a full round - does that mean I have to win two consecutive grapple checks in two consecutive rounds? Can someone please lay out the step-by-step for pinning during a grapple for me please? Because right now I'm pretty sure I'm going to win a grapple check at our level... but what do I do once I've got a hold of them? ...aside from biting their ear off? Any help would be appreciated, thanks. [/QUOTE]

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