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<blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 4955056" data-attributes="member: 14506">Good points all around.AbdulAlhazred:Delay actions are taken during combat, and as far as I know they cannot be taken before a initiative is rolled.I don't really want to get into resumes on games we have played and made but suffice the rules could be quite a bit more clear and intuitive in this area.Your opinion is that two triggers cannot exist, but very broad descriptive triggers may. And you glean this from the singular wording. It also says the word &quot;action&quot; so that could by literalist extension be construed to when they take a &quot;move&quot; action or when they take &quot;standard&quot; action or similarly they could be defined as the actions on page 289, when he takes the squeeze action I attack him, when he does a magic missile action I attack...Keterys:Obviously in a 1 on 1 battle delaying to act before an enemy will not work. In certain situations simply delaying is a better tactic than readying. I think you see that, even though really conceptually what you are doing is readying.Also on those passages from the PHB I was looking for your interpretation on those passages and what they mean to you and how they factor into your judgment and adjudication of the readying rules. My understanding or misunderstanding of them has no bearing. I still wouldn't mind your opinion on them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sadrik, post: 4955056, member: 14506"] Good points all around. AbdulAlhazred: Delay actions are taken during combat, and as far as I know they cannot be taken before a initiative is rolled. I don't really want to get into resumes on games we have played and made but suffice the rules could be quite a bit more clear and intuitive in this area. Your opinion is that two triggers cannot exist, but very broad descriptive triggers may. And you glean this from the singular wording. It also says the word "action" so that could by literalist extension be construed to when they take a "move" action or when they take "standard" action or similarly they could be defined as the actions on page 289, when he takes the squeeze action I attack him, when he does a magic missile action I attack... Keterys: Obviously in a 1 on 1 battle delaying to act before an enemy will not work. In certain situations simply delaying is a better tactic than readying. I think you see that, even though really conceptually what you are doing is readying. Also on those passages from the PHB I was looking for your interpretation on those passages and what they mean to you and how they factor into your judgment and adjudication of the readying rules. My understanding or misunderstanding of them has no bearing. I still wouldn't mind your opinion on them. [/QUOTE]

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