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<blockquote data-quote="KiloGex" data-source="post: 6229054" data-attributes="member: 6673263">You're correct; I don't agree with you.&nbsp; So you want to give less class features, yet then give 12 feats to every character?&nbsp; At this point, you're basically creating small variables between classes, with the majority of differential depending primarily on the feats that a character chooses.&nbsp; I am perfectly okay with having only a small handful of chances for feats - choosing out of a pool of maybe 25 to 30 - and have the vast majority of specialty come from the class and subclass itself.I don't think that having the ability to select a dozen feats from a list of 100 &quot;caters to the more complex gamer&quot;; I think it just makes a game more complex, which isn't always a good thing.&nbsp; Anybody can create an enormous list of selections, give players hundreds of points and numbers to play with, and make a 400 page rulebook that you have to read over a few times just to get the gist of.What WotC is doing with this edition is making the leveling easy for both the person who wants to simply get a template to level by and the person who likes crunching numbers.&nbsp; Where the complexity of the system is going to come in is how you use those numbers, abilities, and feats that you have in gameplay.&nbsp; You can't always judge a system by what the words are; sometimes you need to judge it by how it plays at the table.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KiloGex, post: 6229054, member: 6673263"] You're correct; I don't agree with you. So you want to give less class features, yet then give 12 feats to every character? At this point, you're basically creating small variables between classes, with the majority of differential depending primarily on the feats that a character chooses. I am perfectly okay with having only a small handful of chances for feats - choosing out of a pool of maybe 25 to 30 - and have the vast majority of specialty come from the class and subclass itself. I don't think that having the ability to select a dozen feats from a list of 100 "caters to the more complex gamer"; I think it just makes a game more complex, which isn't always a good thing. Anybody can create an enormous list of selections, give players hundreds of points and numbers to play with, and make a 400 page rulebook that you have to read over a few times just to get the gist of. What WotC is doing with this edition is making the leveling easy for both the person who wants to simply get a template to level by and the person who likes crunching numbers. Where the complexity of the system is going to come in is how you use those numbers, abilities, and feats that you have in gameplay. You can't always judge a system by what the words are; sometimes you need to judge it by how it plays at the table. [/QUOTE]

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