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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8861686" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Just to speak on the specific idea you posed... change 'Kingdom' to 'Barony' and I think you are good.</p><p></p><p>Kingdoms are too large to detail everything well enough to be useful in my opinion. Give me a barony detailed out fully like <em>Curse of Strahd</em> or <em>Nentir Vale</em> (only after of course bringing together ALL the lore from ALL the different 4E products they eventually created for it) and the product you have is spot on.</p><p></p><p>And then eventually if you have the idea of making <em>three separate</em> barony-sized products that can eventually combine together to form a complete County, then great! And eventually then you make two Counties and create a Duchy, then awesome! Then a pair of Duchies to THEN have an entire Kingdom, then that would be the gold-standard. But as we notice... that would be 3 baronies x 2 counties x 2 duchies = 12 barony-sized detailed products to reach your desire for a Kingdom.</p><p></p><p>And this explains why doing a single Kingdom product wouldn't really be useful-- because your details in that one book would be woefully lacking when compared to the 12 baronies worth of detail it probably should have. In my opinion of course.</p><p></p><p>Look at it this way... the 3E Forgotten Realms product <em>Silver Marches</em> book gives a <strong>tremendous</strong> amount of detail about the area of the Silver Marches, probably what we might call a Duchy-sized location. But even then... all the cities only get like a chapter each with the barest of maps for them... and a whole heap of locations strewn across the area get at most a paragraph describing what the location is (and maybe a single plot hook if you were lucky.) Now it definitely had its uses to me as a product when I moved my <em>Tyranny of Dragons</em> campaign in it... swapping out all the locations in those modules for areas from the Silver Marches book... but I still also think that product could have easily been split up four, five, six ways and given grander detail. Heck, Silverymoon could have supported its own book... the Uthgardt barbarian tribe locations could have all had their own book, and so forth. I LOVE the Silver Marches product (one of my favorite D&D setting products of all time) but I still think it could have been even better had it drilled down even closer to areas and gone into even more detail. That's the kind of thing I love to see.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8861686, member: 7006"] Just to speak on the specific idea you posed... change 'Kingdom' to 'Barony' and I think you are good. Kingdoms are too large to detail everything well enough to be useful in my opinion. Give me a barony detailed out fully like [I]Curse of Strahd[/I] or [I]Nentir Vale[/I] (only after of course bringing together ALL the lore from ALL the different 4E products they eventually created for it) and the product you have is spot on. And then eventually if you have the idea of making [I]three separate[/I] barony-sized products that can eventually combine together to form a complete County, then great! And eventually then you make two Counties and create a Duchy, then awesome! Then a pair of Duchies to THEN have an entire Kingdom, then that would be the gold-standard. But as we notice... that would be 3 baronies x 2 counties x 2 duchies = 12 barony-sized detailed products to reach your desire for a Kingdom. And this explains why doing a single Kingdom product wouldn't really be useful-- because your details in that one book would be woefully lacking when compared to the 12 baronies worth of detail it probably should have. In my opinion of course. Look at it this way... the 3E Forgotten Realms product [I]Silver Marches[/I] book gives a [B]tremendous[/B] amount of detail about the area of the Silver Marches, probably what we might call a Duchy-sized location. But even then... all the cities only get like a chapter each with the barest of maps for them... and a whole heap of locations strewn across the area get at most a paragraph describing what the location is (and maybe a single plot hook if you were lucky.) Now it definitely had its uses to me as a product when I moved my [I]Tyranny of Dragons[/I] campaign in it... swapping out all the locations in those modules for areas from the Silver Marches book... but I still also think that product could have easily been split up four, five, six ways and given grander detail. Heck, Silverymoon could have supported its own book... the Uthgardt barbarian tribe locations could have all had their own book, and so forth. I LOVE the Silver Marches product (one of my favorite D&D setting products of all time) but I still think it could have been even better had it drilled down even closer to areas and gone into even more detail. That's the kind of thing I love to see. [/QUOTE]
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