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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Incenjucar" data-source="post: 1807031" data-attributes="member: 6182">You could always go for the Grandpa Diggers* method:  Try and create something to bring out the best in someone, and accidentally do the opposite to yourself.  In the comic, the guy ended up reversing himself almost completely:  Went from alive to undead, good to evil, and instead of wanting nothing more than to protect his family (especially his granddaughters), he hated them more than anything "Grandpa Hates you now!", and tried to destroy them (or in one case, years later, take over her body so he could steal her soul's energy).  Also, it gives you an excuse to have a lich with a thing for buxom vampire secretaries who he makes sit on his lap while giving status reports...*Out of Gold Digger, a bizzare and heavily enjoyable comic with many many D&D-based aspects with amusing or clever twists.</blockquote>