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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 6156565" data-attributes="member: 19675">One thing that some in our group have done is this: PHB Only races (and sometimes, base classes), with feats, spells and so forth drawn from the PHB and the Completes.&nbsp; The catch is that each PC can only use 1 or 2 sources beyond the PHB.As Dandu would probably point out, that doesn't stop abusive PCs from PHB Tier 1 classes being built, but it DOES streamline PC creation a bit, leading to more focus and fewer magpie PCs.&nbsp; That means players are far less likely to unintentionally gimp their characters, and individual players have fewer books to keep track of.Me?&nbsp; I let players use the kitchen sink for nearly everything but races- if I say they don't exist in my campaign world, they simply don't- I just want final approval over your choices to make sure I understand what the PC does and how.&nbsp; If something looks like a game breaker or inappropriate to the campaign, we talk.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 6156565, member: 19675"] One thing that some in our group have done is this: PHB Only races (and sometimes, base classes), with feats, spells and so forth drawn from the PHB and the Completes. The catch is that each PC can only use 1 or 2 sources beyond the PHB. As Dandu would probably point out, that doesn't stop abusive PCs from PHB Tier 1 classes being built, but it DOES streamline PC creation a bit, leading to more focus and fewer magpie PCs. That means players are far less likely to unintentionally gimp their characters, and individual players have fewer books to keep track of. Me? I let players use the kitchen sink for nearly everything but races- if I say they don't exist in my campaign world, they simply don't- I just want final approval over your choices to make sure I understand what the PC does and how. If something looks like a game breaker or inappropriate to the campaign, we talk. [/QUOTE]

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