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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 918478" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>I'll agree that Mike makes very valid points.</p><p></p><p>Then, on the topic of Dungeon, I will refer to the following thread:</p><p><a href="http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35824&perpage=20&pagenumber=1" target="_blank">http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35824&perpage=20&pagenumber=1</a></p><p></p><p>Johnny posted his plan and feedback was provided. I said, basically, "gee, I don't like, it. But you don't owe me anything, good luck to you." See my post early in the thread for the exact quote. Most people, at that time, seemed very supportive of the change. </p><p></p><p>Now, I know what opinions are like, but I think my posts were reasonable and polite. I think they tended to be constructive criticism or at least just simple comment. I would certainly be amazed if anyone called them vitriol.</p><p></p><p>IMO, the thread started its downturn when Erik dove in with "Man, I love the smell of a good "screw Polyhedron" thread."</p><p>Now, the "is the end near" thread is one thing. And I think the web content thread going now is plain silly. But when Pazio asks for feedback and then replies this way when they get it, I get a negative feeling. Maybe I'm just sensitive that way.</p><p></p><p>So anyway, Mike is right. Civil conversation is a much more effect mechanism. But as I perceive it, Paizo has made their own bed by A) stooping to the level of some of the more basic critics and B) tending to respond more to the over-the-top posters, to the point that I have gotten the idea that they find that easier to do.</p><p></p><p>I'll still say that I don't have any interest in Poly. When my scrip is up, I'm done. No hard feelings at all there. You guys do whatever you want with <strong>your</strong> product. But when I am left with the feeling that you as professionals treated me poorly, you are going to need to look somewhere else for sympathy when the vitriol does roll your direction.</p><p></p><p></p><p>"We listened to customers who told us that they want core materials, not world materials. That they buy DUNGEON magazine every two months at a rate twice that of our best selling stand-alone adventures." - Ryan Dancey - March 2000</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 918478, member: 957"] I'll agree that Mike makes very valid points. Then, on the topic of Dungeon, I will refer to the following thread: [url]http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35824&perpage=20&pagenumber=1[/url] Johnny posted his plan and feedback was provided. I said, basically, "gee, I don't like, it. But you don't owe me anything, good luck to you." See my post early in the thread for the exact quote. Most people, at that time, seemed very supportive of the change. Now, I know what opinions are like, but I think my posts were reasonable and polite. I think they tended to be constructive criticism or at least just simple comment. I would certainly be amazed if anyone called them vitriol. IMO, the thread started its downturn when Erik dove in with "Man, I love the smell of a good "screw Polyhedron" thread." Now, the "is the end near" thread is one thing. And I think the web content thread going now is plain silly. But when Pazio asks for feedback and then replies this way when they get it, I get a negative feeling. Maybe I'm just sensitive that way. So anyway, Mike is right. Civil conversation is a much more effect mechanism. But as I perceive it, Paizo has made their own bed by A) stooping to the level of some of the more basic critics and B) tending to respond more to the over-the-top posters, to the point that I have gotten the idea that they find that easier to do. I'll still say that I don't have any interest in Poly. When my scrip is up, I'm done. No hard feelings at all there. You guys do whatever you want with [b]your[/b] product. But when I am left with the feeling that you as professionals treated me poorly, you are going to need to look somewhere else for sympathy when the vitriol does roll your direction. "We listened to customers who told us that they want core materials, not world materials. That they buy DUNGEON magazine every two months at a rate twice that of our best selling stand-alone adventures." - Ryan Dancey - March 2000 [/QUOTE]
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