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<blockquote data-quote="Pauln6" data-source="post: 8862614" data-attributes="member: 6777422">I am in the camp that players should not assume that just because there is a dragon in front of you that you are capable of fighting it.&nbsp; Sneaking, bluffing, or retreating should sometimes be the right approach.That said, I do think that there are dials that can be turned up and down.&nbsp;&nbsp; Hit points are averaged.&nbsp; That means you can build a monster with above or below average hp.&nbsp; You can increase or decrease strength or constitution scores by 2 points.&nbsp; You can give armour, magic items (e.g. the red dragon Cirothe had swallowed a mud sorcerer tile that granted her magic resistance). You can build a lair with features for PCs or monsters to exploit.I do think 5e needs a book of lairs with sample features or sample lairs to give examples of ways to move the dial.We converted the Rift of the Frost Giant Jarl to 5e and my 10th -13th level PCs understood that they had no chance of trying to fight their way through.&nbsp; They bluffed and sneaked to the Jarl's lair, killed him, and did a deal with his wife's family for a transition of power based on some of the subplots from the 4e version.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pauln6, post: 8862614, member: 6777422"] I am in the camp that players should not assume that just because there is a dragon in front of you that you are capable of fighting it. Sneaking, bluffing, or retreating should sometimes be the right approach. That said, I do think that there are dials that can be turned up and down. Hit points are averaged. That means you can build a monster with above or below average hp. You can increase or decrease strength or constitution scores by 2 points. You can give armour, magic items (e.g. the red dragon Cirothe had swallowed a mud sorcerer tile that granted her magic resistance). You can build a lair with features for PCs or monsters to exploit. I do think 5e needs a book of lairs with sample features or sample lairs to give examples of ways to move the dial. We converted the Rift of the Frost Giant Jarl to 5e and my 10th -13th level PCs understood that they had no chance of trying to fight their way through. They bluffed and sneaked to the Jarl's lair, killed him, and did a deal with his wife's family for a transition of power based on some of the subplots from the 4e version. [/QUOTE]

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