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<blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 4703865" data-attributes="member: 43019">That said, swordmage AoE is good for damaging things, clearing minions, etc. I've been grouping with a promise of storm lightning weapon-ed swordmage who can do quite good damage. Fwiw, I actually use an infernal pact warlock as a defender in one game... and my damage is quite good by those standards <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> You definitely want the warlock in melee, triggering OAs, Armor of Agathys going, etc... I do hope that Arcane Power will help address the # of powers disparity for Con-based warlocks, but I'm not sure that Dark Pact is really all that great for avoiding grindspace... Star is good, though!My inspiring warlord's warlord strike (sometimes twice, via power jewel) and inspired belligerence are _very_ anti-grind. Resourceful Warlords can add considerable damage to an attack on hit with an action point...I like trickster rogues for being more willing to risk themselves, moving enemies and allies into better positions (like positioning an enemy into a damaging zone)... but brutal certainly is good too. Hard to argue with more damage <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Since a lot of the ones you listed use Charisma, I'll also note that a Charisma user who can Intimidate bloodied enemies can also help with preventing grind.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="keterys, post: 4703865, member: 43019"] That said, swordmage AoE is good for damaging things, clearing minions, etc. I've been grouping with a promise of storm lightning weapon-ed swordmage who can do quite good damage. Fwiw, I actually use an infernal pact warlock as a defender in one game... and my damage is quite good by those standards :) You definitely want the warlock in melee, triggering OAs, Armor of Agathys going, etc... I do hope that Arcane Power will help address the # of powers disparity for Con-based warlocks, but I'm not sure that Dark Pact is really all that great for avoiding grindspace... Star is good, though! My inspiring warlord's warlord strike (sometimes twice, via power jewel) and inspired belligerence are _very_ anti-grind. Resourceful Warlords can add considerable damage to an attack on hit with an action point... I like trickster rogues for being more willing to risk themselves, moving enemies and allies into better positions (like positioning an enemy into a damaging zone)... but brutal certainly is good too. Hard to argue with more damage :) Since a lot of the ones you listed use Charisma, I'll also note that a Charisma user who can Intimidate bloodied enemies can also help with preventing grind. [/QUOTE]

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