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How to challenge PC with arcane eye & arcane sight
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<blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 3518445" data-attributes="member: 20805"><p>Mass Nystal's Magic Aura... make the entire area appear to have a magical aura, masking any hidden combatants</p><p></p><p>or:</p><p></p><p> "Scry-Jack"</p><p> This spell redirected scry attempts to view/hear/feel an illusion created in advance. Scrying on the illusion is *not* interacting with it</p><p> [possible HR, altho I know I have seen this spell under another name in print somewhere]</p><p></p><p>or: </p><p></p><p> [HR] "Scry Backlash"</p><p> Magic Missile variant that deals non-lethal damage to the owner of the targeted scry sensor.</p><p></p><p>or:</p><p></p><p>proactive opponents</p><p></p><p>or:</p><p></p><p>group of minions with magical items.. the who spot the arcane eye and withdraw hastily... leaving in hiding some nasty, hungry monsters. When the party charges through to catch the minions.... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /> </p><p></p><p>or:</p><p></p><p> Turn about is fair play... mid rest cycle an Arcane Eye scouts *them* out... </p><p></p><p>or:</p><p></p><p> Let the party have thier cake for you being silly enough to allow the Mage to do that.</p><p>I use Elements of Magic rules were permanent spells take up a 'slot', and you can only have 12 magic effects {items or permanent spells} working at any given time.</p><p></p><p>or: reread the spell...</p><p> Arcane Sight "This spell makes your eyes glow blue and allows you to see magical auras within 120 feet of you...."</p><p> Are you sure this effect applies to Arcane Eye? </p><p>Arcane Eye "It sees exactly as you would see if you were there."</p><p> I read this as the Eye has the same normal vision types that you have, not that enhanced visual effects apply to it. But I tend to be a bit stricter on this.</p><p></p><p>I guess the question here is 'does Arcane Eye provide LOS for the purpose of other spells?"</p><p>{Arcane Sight " If the items or creatures bearing the auras are in line of sight..."}</p><p></p><p>If so, a split-mind* Psion/Mage would find this spell *highly* useful...</p><p>but, OTOH... if it provides LOS, it should then be vulnerable to Gaze attacks.. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> </p><p></p><p>{* split-mind.. or whatever the name of that power that lets a psionic character concentrate on one thing while still acting/casting/manifesting...}</p><p></p><p>And lastly.. Invisibility Purge... or whatever other means to make the invisible sensor visible to pretty much anyone..without the need for the DC 20 INT check.[/HR]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Primitive Screwhead, post: 3518445, member: 20805"] Mass Nystal's Magic Aura... make the entire area appear to have a magical aura, masking any hidden combatants or: "Scry-Jack" This spell redirected scry attempts to view/hear/feel an illusion created in advance. Scrying on the illusion is *not* interacting with it [possible HR, altho I know I have seen this spell under another name in print somewhere] or: [HR] "Scry Backlash" Magic Missile variant that deals non-lethal damage to the owner of the targeted scry sensor. or: proactive opponents or: group of minions with magical items.. the who spot the arcane eye and withdraw hastily... leaving in hiding some nasty, hungry monsters. When the party charges through to catch the minions.... :] or: Turn about is fair play... mid rest cycle an Arcane Eye scouts *them* out... or: Let the party have thier cake for you being silly enough to allow the Mage to do that. I use Elements of Magic rules were permanent spells take up a 'slot', and you can only have 12 magic effects {items or permanent spells} working at any given time. or: reread the spell... Arcane Sight "This spell makes your eyes glow blue and allows you to see magical auras within 120 feet of you...." Are you sure this effect applies to Arcane Eye? Arcane Eye "It sees exactly as you would see if you were there." I read this as the Eye has the same normal vision types that you have, not that enhanced visual effects apply to it. But I tend to be a bit stricter on this. I guess the question here is 'does Arcane Eye provide LOS for the purpose of other spells?" {Arcane Sight " If the items or creatures bearing the auras are in line of sight..."} If so, a split-mind* Psion/Mage would find this spell *highly* useful... but, OTOH... if it provides LOS, it should then be vulnerable to Gaze attacks.. :eek: {* split-mind.. or whatever the name of that power that lets a psionic character concentrate on one thing while still acting/casting/manifesting...} And lastly.. Invisibility Purge... or whatever other means to make the invisible sensor visible to pretty much anyone..without the need for the DC 20 INT check.[/HR] [/QUOTE]
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