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<blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 3525485" data-attributes="member: 20805"><p>First: <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/exploration.htm#visionAndLight" target="_blank">SRD Vision</a> says nothing about 'MageVision'... you are extrapolating that idea from the text about the casters eyes glowing blue.</p><p></p><p>Second... you contradict yourself. If you can't Detect Magic through it... Arcane Eye text reads "The effect is similar to that of a detect magic spell...." and ..."allows you to see magical auras within 120 feet of you." ... or put into your method of phrasing "...going from your head to 120 feet away from it."</p><p></p><p> Essentially Arcane Sight is a Detect Magic that is a bit better, hence its place at 3rd level. I read the text of the spell as to not be compatable with Arcane Eye. If a player were to convince me otherwize, I would be willing to concede provided the conduit between the Arcane Eye and the Mage works both ways... taking "It sees exactly as you would see if you were there" to all the nasty possibilities that it can lead to.</p><p></p><p>But, moritheil has the right of it.. good GM's don't go around using the nerf-batting of excellent player tactics as thier primary plot design concept.</p><p></p><p>This is just another example of poor standardization between editors. The spells could be written much clearer.</p><p></p><p></p><p>=========</p><p>JMHO</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Primitive Screwhead, post: 3525485, member: 20805"] First: [URL=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/exploration.htm#visionAndLight]SRD Vision[/URL] says nothing about 'MageVision'... you are extrapolating that idea from the text about the casters eyes glowing blue. Second... you contradict yourself. If you can't Detect Magic through it... Arcane Eye text reads "The effect is similar to that of a detect magic spell...." and ..."allows you to see magical auras within 120 feet of you." ... or put into your method of phrasing "...going from your head to 120 feet away from it." Essentially Arcane Sight is a Detect Magic that is a bit better, hence its place at 3rd level. I read the text of the spell as to not be compatable with Arcane Eye. If a player were to convince me otherwize, I would be willing to concede provided the conduit between the Arcane Eye and the Mage works both ways... taking "It sees exactly as you would see if you were there" to all the nasty possibilities that it can lead to. But, moritheil has the right of it.. good GM's don't go around using the nerf-batting of excellent player tactics as thier primary plot design concept. This is just another example of poor standardization between editors. The spells could be written much clearer. ========= JMHO [/QUOTE]
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