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<blockquote data-quote="Devon" data-source="post: 56147" data-attributes="member: 1446">just reviewed Monte's construct templateI found Monte Cook's construct template from the Book of Eldritch Might (offered for free on his website), and while it seems clear enough, it didn't address a few issues which concerned me.&nbsp; I downloaded the full book ($5), and it didn't elaborate any more than the excerpt.First, he only mentions Stone and Metal constructs, so the template doesn't address constructs of other types.Next, the Arcane/Divine issue.&nbsp; Arcane and Divine spellcasters can both create stone constructs, but limited wish (listed as one of the 4 spells) is only an arcane spell, and polymorph any object (another required spell) is only for arcane spellcasters and clerics with the Trickery domain.&nbsp; Stone shape and geas/quest are, thankfully, open to both arcane and divine casters.&nbsp; Also, only arcane casters can create metal constructs (and that list is fully arcane spells).&nbsp; It does mention that visiting spellcasters can provide one of the spells, but this is not common to the seminal four golems (flesh, stone, clay and iron), although these do address outside sources.Also, it mentions that a creator needs to be 16th level for both stone and metal constructs, regardless of the creation's power level.&nbsp; The standard four golems do vary as far as minimum caster level.Overall, the template serves to convert existing creatures into stone and metal construct forms.&nbsp; Which is great, and I'll use it.&nbsp; However, it doesn't go into enough detail about the broad spectrum of golem creation.&nbsp; What we do get is a baseline for determining costs (10,000 per hit die), xp (for stone, 100/hit die, or 1% of its cost in gold; for metal, 150 xp/hit die, or 1.5% of its cost in gold), a value for the lab (500 gp), the feats needed (Craft Wondrous Item or Craft Magic Arms and Armor), and the time expenditure.Mongoose is publishing a book on construct creation (part of their Encyclopaedia Arcane line), so maybe they'll have something on the general nature of golems.&nbsp; Or I'll have to forge my own set of suggestions.-&nbsp; Devon</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Devon, post: 56147, member: 1446"] [b]just reviewed Monte's construct template[/b] I found Monte Cook's construct template from the Book of Eldritch Might (offered for free on his website), and while it seems clear enough, it didn't address a few issues which concerned me. I downloaded the full book ($5), and it didn't elaborate any more than the excerpt. First, he only mentions Stone and Metal constructs, so the template doesn't address constructs of other types. Next, the Arcane/Divine issue. Arcane and Divine spellcasters can both create stone constructs, but limited wish (listed as one of the 4 spells) is only an arcane spell, and polymorph any object (another required spell) is only for arcane spellcasters and clerics with the Trickery domain. Stone shape and geas/quest are, thankfully, open to both arcane and divine casters. Also, only arcane casters can create metal constructs (and that list is fully arcane spells). It does mention that visiting spellcasters can provide one of the spells, but this is not common to the seminal four golems (flesh, stone, clay and iron), although these do address outside sources. Also, it mentions that a creator needs to be 16th level for both stone and metal constructs, regardless of the creation's power level. The standard four golems do vary as far as minimum caster level. Overall, the template serves to convert existing creatures into stone and metal construct forms. Which is great, and I'll use it. However, it doesn't go into enough detail about the broad spectrum of golem creation. What we do get is a baseline for determining costs (10,000 per hit die), xp (for stone, 100/hit die, or 1% of its cost in gold; for metal, 150 xp/hit die, or 1.5% of its cost in gold), a value for the lab (500 gp), the feats needed (Craft Wondrous Item or Craft Magic Arms and Armor), and the time expenditure. Mongoose is publishing a book on construct creation (part of their Encyclopaedia Arcane line), so maybe they'll have something on the general nature of golems. Or I'll have to forge my own set of suggestions. - Devon [/QUOTE]

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