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<blockquote data-quote="Salthorae" data-source="post: 7831748" data-attributes="member: 1095"><p>Would you re-include the old 2e 1st level spell named "Cantrip"? </p><p>[Spoiler=Cantrip (PHB pg 171)]</p><p>Cantrips are minor spells I studied by wizards during their apprenticeship, regardless of school. The cantrip spell is a practice method for the apprentice, teaching him how to tap minute amounts of magical energy. Once cast, the cantrip spell enables the caster to create minor magical effects for the duration of the spell.</p><p></p><p>So minor are these effects that they have severe limitations. They are completely unable to cause a loss of hit points, cannot affect the concentration of spellcasters, and can only create small, obviously magical materials. Furthermore, materials created by a cantrip are extremely fragile and cannot be used as tools of any sort. Lastly, a cantrip lacks the power to duplicate any other spell effects.</p><p></p><p>Whatever manifestation the cantrip takes, it remains in effect only as long as the wizard concentrates. Wizards typically use cantrips to impress common folk, amuse children, and brighten dreary lives.</p><p></p><p>Common tricks with cantrips include tinklings of ethereal music, brightening faded flowers, glowing balls that float over the caster's hand, puffs of wind to flicker candles, spicing up aromas and flavors of bland food, and little whirlwinds to sweep dust under rugs. Combined with the unseen servant spell, these are the tools to make housekeeping and entertaining simpler for the wizard.[/spoiler]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Even in 1e Rangers were spellcasters. At 8th level they started getting Druid spells and at 9th level they started getting Wizard (Magic-user) spells also, so they were like Double magic martial class even in 1e. </p><p></p><p>2e reduced them to just Priest spells starting at 8th level. </p><p></p><p>1e Paladins also started to get access to Priest spells at 9th level. </p><p></p><p>2e kept Paladins to Priest spells at 9th level </p><p></p><p>It's not like 3.x or 5e brought spellcasting to these classes, 5e just continued the trend of 3.x of bringing their casting abilities forward.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Salthorae, post: 7831748, member: 1095"] Would you re-include the old 2e 1st level spell named "Cantrip"? [Spoiler=Cantrip (PHB pg 171)] Cantrips are minor spells I studied by wizards during their apprenticeship, regardless of school. The cantrip spell is a practice method for the apprentice, teaching him how to tap minute amounts of magical energy. Once cast, the cantrip spell enables the caster to create minor magical effects for the duration of the spell. So minor are these effects that they have severe limitations. They are completely unable to cause a loss of hit points, cannot affect the concentration of spellcasters, and can only create small, obviously magical materials. Furthermore, materials created by a cantrip are extremely fragile and cannot be used as tools of any sort. Lastly, a cantrip lacks the power to duplicate any other spell effects. Whatever manifestation the cantrip takes, it remains in effect only as long as the wizard concentrates. Wizards typically use cantrips to impress common folk, amuse children, and brighten dreary lives. Common tricks with cantrips include tinklings of ethereal music, brightening faded flowers, glowing balls that float over the caster's hand, puffs of wind to flicker candles, spicing up aromas and flavors of bland food, and little whirlwinds to sweep dust under rugs. Combined with the unseen servant spell, these are the tools to make housekeeping and entertaining simpler for the wizard.[/spoiler] Even in 1e Rangers were spellcasters. At 8th level they started getting Druid spells and at 9th level they started getting Wizard (Magic-user) spells also, so they were like Double magic martial class even in 1e. 2e reduced them to just Priest spells starting at 8th level. 1e Paladins also started to get access to Priest spells at 9th level. 2e kept Paladins to Priest spells at 9th level It's not like 3.x or 5e brought spellcasting to these classes, 5e just continued the trend of 3.x of bringing their casting abilities forward. [/QUOTE]
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