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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 306425" data-attributes="member: 2020">Talk about a difficult Will check!  When Aragorn looked into the Palantir, and saw Sauron looking back, and decided to FIGHT with him for control of the thing, THAT called for an opposed Will check (I think such a thing exists in 3rd edition ...)  I am sure Sauron had the higher level, as it were ... but Aragorn had a high Will save to start with, and he had multiple bonuses to that save.    And still, it was extremely close (as in, within 3 on the die roll.)  One has to give credit to Denethor.  The man did not completely wrest control of his Palantir from Sauron, but he was not completely dominated by Sauron either.  That's more than can be said of Saruman, who was heavily (but not totally) dominated, and Saruman was a Maia from Valinor.  Denethor deserves the credit Boromir gives him in the film.  - - -  Is Aragorn an Epic character?  Yes.  Is Aragorn some kick-butt ranger who ultra high level with some cool Feats?  No.  Aragorn is a complicated character, and it would not do justice to him unless one took the time and effort to fully flesh him out in 3rd Edition D&D terms.  I cannot do this, for I am not familiar with 3rd Edition sufficiently, and because I do not wish to take the (very large) amount of time required.  However, please give the man credit.  As Aragorn himself said, without boasting:    It would take more than a few days, or weeks, or years, of wandering in the Wild to make you look like Strider ... and you would die first, unless you are made of sterner stuff than you look to be.  Or, to make a long story short, I'd give Aragorn odds over Drizzt Do'Urden in a battle anyday, and in survival skills Aragorn wins hands down.  For that matter, I think Aragorn could match Dove Falconhand in tracking, beat her in survival tests, and would be her match in combat (even with her Chosen Powers to help her.)  A fitting person to take on the Lord of the Ringwraiths:  Witch-King of Angmar;  King of the Nazgul;  Sauron's Second-In-Command.  And Elrond (in the film) sends his only daughter, Arwen, out on the road alone and unaided, to take on this foe and his eight shieldfellows.  LOL ...</blockquote>

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