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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4683482" data-attributes="member: 40961">Oh.&nbsp;And here's what I'd do to create a spellthief in 4e.&nbsp; I'd give up on the specific concept of stealing specific abilities, and instead create a character that leaches away his enemy's energy in order to augment himself.&nbsp; I'd be going for a general spellthief *feel* instead of a specific spellthief rewrite.&nbsp; And I'd redo the trigger for a spellthief using his spell-thiefery.&nbsp; Sneak attack didn't quite... make sense.&nbsp; I'd go with the idea that the spellthief is stealing the attack straight from his enemy's mind, after he sees the enemy use it.&nbsp; And just to really anger people who love continuity, I'd make the class Psionic.&nbsp;Every time an enemy used a rechargable power, I'd let the spellthief steal its energies.&nbsp; A stolen rechargable power doesn't recharge.&nbsp; Then I'd give the spellthief a suite of powers that are only usable when he's stolen something, and only when he's stolen a specific something.&nbsp; So maybe he has a particular melee attack that he can only use when he's stolen a power that has the melee keyword.&nbsp; Or another that he can only use when he's stolen a power that dealt elemental damage.&nbsp; The idea would be that the spellthief wasn't stealing specific spells or attacks, but rather that he was stealing magical energies or physical acumen.&nbsp;And I'd probably change the name.&nbsp;I know that might not satisfy a hard core spellthief fan, but I think it would be the best way to accomplish the general look and feel of the class with a minimum of fuss.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4683482, member: 40961"] Oh. And here's what I'd do to create a spellthief in 4e. I'd give up on the specific concept of stealing specific abilities, and instead create a character that leaches away his enemy's energy in order to augment himself. I'd be going for a general spellthief *feel* instead of a specific spellthief rewrite. And I'd redo the trigger for a spellthief using his spell-thiefery. Sneak attack didn't quite... make sense. I'd go with the idea that the spellthief is stealing the attack straight from his enemy's mind, after he sees the enemy use it. And just to really anger people who love continuity, I'd make the class Psionic. Every time an enemy used a rechargable power, I'd let the spellthief steal its energies. A stolen rechargable power doesn't recharge. Then I'd give the spellthief a suite of powers that are only usable when he's stolen something, and only when he's stolen a specific something. So maybe he has a particular melee attack that he can only use when he's stolen a power that has the melee keyword. Or another that he can only use when he's stolen a power that dealt elemental damage. The idea would be that the spellthief wasn't stealing specific spells or attacks, but rather that he was stealing magical energies or physical acumen. And I'd probably change the name. I know that might not satisfy a hard core spellthief fan, but I think it would be the best way to accomplish the general look and feel of the class with a minimum of fuss. [/QUOTE]

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