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<blockquote data-quote="3catcircus" data-source="post: 7975676" data-attributes="member: 16077">Sigh...I'm not condoning anything.&nbsp; I'm stating that in a game attempting to model anything from ancient to medieval, the modern notions of good and evil don't apply.The Code of Hammurabi, for example, dictates certain crimes and punishments (mostly death).&nbsp; Owning and killing slaves revolves around money rather than whether or not it is wrong to own slaves.&nbsp; Theft, harboring fugitive slaves, accusing someone of wrongdoing with no proof, not abiding by your word, not paying your debts - all were serious crimes with most leading to death as a punishment.&nbsp; The idea of eye-for-an-eye punishment for injuring your equals originated here.&nbsp; Injuring a &quot;freed man&quot; or a slave (i.e. those below your station) - not so much a crime - pay a fine.But I guarantee those same peasants had no problem with stealing food, not paying taxes, or poaching game, if they didn't get caught.My point is that in older society, their values were very different than those that we have now.&nbsp; How else do you account for the fact that in Rome, killing ones' own family or assaulting someone of a higher station was criminal, but beating someone if a lower station or killing your slaves because you could were no big deal?&nbsp; Or why slavery was allowed to exist into the 19th century as colonial powers brutally engaged in conquest while exploiting the local populace who were looked at as lesser humans?&nbsp; Sure there were people who felt that to be wrong, but the majority of society didn't think twice about it for quite a long time...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="3catcircus, post: 7975676, member: 16077"] Sigh... I'm not condoning anything. I'm stating that in a game attempting to model anything from ancient to medieval, the modern notions of good and evil don't apply. The Code of Hammurabi, for example, dictates certain crimes and punishments (mostly death). Owning and killing slaves revolves around money rather than whether or not it is wrong to own slaves. Theft, harboring fugitive slaves, accusing someone of wrongdoing with no proof, not abiding by your word, not paying your debts - all were serious crimes with most leading to death as a punishment. The idea of eye-for-an-eye punishment for injuring your equals originated here. Injuring a "freed man" or a slave (i.e. those below your station) - not so much a crime - pay a fine. But I guarantee those same peasants had no problem with stealing food, not paying taxes, or poaching game, if they didn't get caught. My point is that in older society, their values were very different than those that we have now. How else do you account for the fact that in Rome, killing ones' own family or assaulting someone of a higher station was criminal, but beating someone if a lower station or killing your slaves because you could were no big deal? Or why slavery was allowed to exist into the 19th century as colonial powers brutally engaged in conquest while exploiting the local populace who were looked at as lesser humans? Sure there were people who felt that to be wrong, but the majority of society didn't think twice about it for quite a long time... [/QUOTE]

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