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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Turhan" data-source="post: 1931746" data-attributes="member: 21856">Good morning,Piratecat's criticism of one of my options for evading damage is valid.  I should have mentioned that when I want a Player to move a mini, I only apply that particular rule to spells with small areas of effect- no more than 20-30 feet in radius, and then not all the time.  It has to fit the story telling part of the scene they are in.  Sometimes it has to do with PC's who are in "motion" when the spell goes off.  It is not always easy to handle, and I try not to push the issue if the players don't want to accept my suggestion.  Also, I never roll the random direction myself- the player does that, and in some cases I let the player choose the direction if there is some piece of cover nearby he wants to employ as the reason he took no damage.For spells like firestorm and large spells, saving throws are handled without movements.  The bottom line is: Let them have fun, and try to apply the rules with some uniformity; the rules allow them to stand still and make a save, so if that's what they want, so be it.  The DM can always describe the spell effect and the save result in a fitting fashion.By the way, for all the other posters here, I've enjoyed your take on stuff.  Good work, and thanks for making me think about some of my stuff again.</blockquote>