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How to Fix a Slavery situation without murder? (Solved!)
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<blockquote data-quote="John Morrow" data-source="post: 2017421" data-attributes="member: 27012"><p>Are the PCs going to stay with the slaves and lead the revolt? It doesn't sound like they want to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, Spartacus (I'm talking about the historical one, not the movie) escaped with 70-80 other gladiators.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's fine if the players don't mind playing out a tragedy. Consider the scene in The Princess Bride where the grandson shouts, "Jesus, Grandpa! Why are you reading me this thing?"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Reread the examples. There are 40 slavers and 24 slaves. The slaves don't "vastly outnumber the slavers".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are several ways do to that, including a few that are far less direct (I suggested a few).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Absolutely. I think that if the players want to play that sort of game, that option is clearly available to them. Remember, the GM and player are asking for alternatives here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>False dichotomy. There are plenty of other wrongs that the players could right. For example, killing the dragon might be far more important than freeing the slaves if the dragon is going to show up in a year or two and lay waste to everyone, regardless of whether they are a slaver or slave. </p><p></p><p>The question is whether or not the players and GM want to go into a full-blown game about overthrowing a slave-owning society. Is it heroic? Yes. Is it going to consume the entire game if they start it? Yup. </p><p></p><p>There is slavery in the D&D game that I'm running but the players aren't off trying to start a slave revolt (though they've freed more than a few). Why? Because they are working on stopping their entire planet from being conquered and enslaved. In the big scheme of things, the local slavery is small potatoes Evil that they can worry about tackling later. When the opportunity presents itself to free slaves, stop slavers, etc. the PCs take it but they can't afford to get sucked into that full time, no matter how much they want to.</p><p></p><p>[Edit: galdiators->gladiators]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Morrow, post: 2017421, member: 27012"] Are the PCs going to stay with the slaves and lead the revolt? It doesn't sound like they want to. Actually, Spartacus (I'm talking about the historical one, not the movie) escaped with 70-80 other gladiators. That's fine if the players don't mind playing out a tragedy. Consider the scene in The Princess Bride where the grandson shouts, "Jesus, Grandpa! Why are you reading me this thing?" Reread the examples. There are 40 slavers and 24 slaves. The slaves don't "vastly outnumber the slavers". There are several ways do to that, including a few that are far less direct (I suggested a few). Absolutely. I think that if the players want to play that sort of game, that option is clearly available to them. Remember, the GM and player are asking for alternatives here. False dichotomy. There are plenty of other wrongs that the players could right. For example, killing the dragon might be far more important than freeing the slaves if the dragon is going to show up in a year or two and lay waste to everyone, regardless of whether they are a slaver or slave. The question is whether or not the players and GM want to go into a full-blown game about overthrowing a slave-owning society. Is it heroic? Yes. Is it going to consume the entire game if they start it? Yup. There is slavery in the D&D game that I'm running but the players aren't off trying to start a slave revolt (though they've freed more than a few). Why? Because they are working on stopping their entire planet from being conquered and enslaved. In the big scheme of things, the local slavery is small potatoes Evil that they can worry about tackling later. When the opportunity presents itself to free slaves, stop slavers, etc. the PCs take it but they can't afford to get sucked into that full time, no matter how much they want to. [Edit: galdiators->gladiators] [/QUOTE]
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