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<blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 8827672" data-attributes="member: 205">I think the first part of adjusting multiclassing is recognizing some of the narrative complications.First, you have the people who want multiclassing right out of the gate, because their character is someone who doesn't color within the lines and doesn't follow a normal class progression.&nbsp; So for that narrative, you need something like AD&amp;D gestalt multiclassing or 4e hybrids.Then, you have the characters who want to switch gears during the course of play because they're pursuing a new path.&nbsp; I'm a ranger, but I want to focus more on primal magic, so I decide to multiclass to druid.&nbsp; Or I picked up a spellbook from that evil necromancer, and now my rogue wants to learn magic and multiclass to wizard.&nbsp; For that kind of narrative, you need something like 2e &quot;dual-classing&quot; or 3e/5e level-by-level class choice.And then, you have the training complication for the &quot;switch gears&quot; narrative, what I like to call the &quot;multiclass wizard&quot; problem.&nbsp; This case is where a character wants to take a class that has an assumed narrative of years of training.&nbsp; This complication primarily impacts wizards, but sometimes other classes that often carry narratives of in-game membership in an organization, such as druids.&nbsp; How would I handle it while still keeping to paradigm that resembles 5e:1)&nbsp; Something like 4e hybrid is the standard class design.&nbsp; Classes are thinner, but everyone picks 2.&nbsp; Instead of class/subclass, characters are all class 1/class 2.&nbsp; You might pick Fighter/Eldritch Knight if you want to be a warrior with some spell tricks, or Wizard/Eldritch Knight if you want to be a caster that's a bit more front-line.2)&nbsp; Backgrounds give more oomph, and 1st level class picks give less.&nbsp; Your training time as an apprentice mage is explained by your Sage background, not your wizard class.&nbsp; A 1st level Sage background wizard might know 4-5 spells and have proficiency in Arcana thanks to their background; a 1st level Charlatan wizard might only know 1 spell from their class, but has Stealth and Deception proficiency and some other roguish tricks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwoSix, post: 8827672, member: 205"] I think the first part of adjusting multiclassing is recognizing some of the narrative complications. First, you have the people who want multiclassing right out of the gate, because their character is someone who doesn't color within the lines and doesn't follow a normal class progression. So for that narrative, you need something like AD&D gestalt multiclassing or 4e hybrids. Then, you have the characters who want to switch gears during the course of play because they're pursuing a new path. I'm a ranger, but I want to focus more on primal magic, so I decide to multiclass to druid. Or I picked up a spellbook from that evil necromancer, and now my rogue wants to learn magic and multiclass to wizard. For that kind of narrative, you need something like 2e "dual-classing" or 3e/5e level-by-level class choice. And then, you have the training complication for the "switch gears" narrative, what I like to call the "multiclass wizard" problem. This case is where a character wants to take a class that has an assumed narrative of years of training. This complication primarily impacts wizards, but sometimes other classes that often carry narratives of in-game membership in an organization, such as druids. How would I handle it while still keeping to paradigm that resembles 5e: 1) Something like 4e hybrid is the standard class design. Classes are thinner, but everyone picks 2. Instead of class/subclass, characters are all class 1/class 2. You might pick Fighter/Eldritch Knight if you want to be a warrior with some spell tricks, or Wizard/Eldritch Knight if you want to be a caster that's a bit more front-line. 2) Backgrounds give more oomph, and 1st level class picks give less. Your training time as an apprentice mage is explained by your Sage background, not your wizard class. A 1st level Sage background wizard might know 4-5 spells and have proficiency in Arcana thanks to their background; a 1st level Charlatan wizard might only know 1 spell from their class, but has Stealth and Deception proficiency and some other roguish tricks. [/QUOTE]

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