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<blockquote data-quote="michaiel" data-source="post: 6291388" data-attributes="member: 92302">I may have found something. Would the Cloak of Mystery (Su) ability of the Vecna-blooded template (MM5 p.66-67) pretty much stop the above-mentioned spells? The wording is a bit vague, more flavour-oriented and less mechanics-oriented. For instance, it says that you gain &quot;immunity to all divination spells cast against it [sounds like targeting] or cast to learn information about it [sounds like area effects]&quot;. But it never actually uses any rules-language like &quot;target&quot;. Detect Magic isn't &quot;cast against&quot; any specific creature, but it IS cast to learn information, about the Vecna-blooded creature as well as any other creature that happens to be in the spell's cone. Personally if I were DMing, I'd say that if you went through that much work to get the ability, that you deserve good functionality. But just curious what you guys think.&nbsp;On a less insane path than questing to become God-blooded.... would Mind Blank foil things like Detect Magic, since it says &quot;This spell protects against all ... information gathering by divination spells or effects&quot;. The spell's flavour focuses on mind-affecting, but it also lists the area effect of scrying, which has nothing to do with the mind and is rather visual. Detect Magic and its ilk are certainly &quot;information gathering by divination&quot; and are area effects that have nothing to do with the mind. So... what exactly is under the purview of Mind Blank?&nbsp;What about the above two in regards to the monster abilities? Cloak of Mystery only mentions &quot;spells&quot;, while Mind Blank says &quot;spells or effects&quot;. I'd say the monster abilities certainly count as divination effects, so Mind Blank should foil the monsters. Does the rest of the vague wording for Cloak of Mystery allow the monster abilities to be covered by its protection?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="michaiel, post: 6291388, member: 92302"] I may have found something. Would the [I]Cloak of Mystery (Su)[/I] ability of the Vecna-blooded template (MM5 p.66-67) pretty much stop the above-mentioned spells? The wording is a bit vague, more flavour-oriented and less mechanics-oriented. For instance, it says that you gain "immunity to all divination spells cast against it [sounds like targeting] or cast to learn information about it [sounds like area effects]". But it never actually uses any rules-language like "target". [I]Detect Magic[/I] isn't "cast against" any specific creature, but it IS cast to learn information, about the Vecna-blooded creature as well as any other creature that happens to be in the spell's cone. Personally if I were DMing, I'd say that if you went through that much work to get the ability, that you deserve good functionality. But just curious what you guys think. On a less insane path than questing to become God-blooded.... would [I]Mind Blank[/I] foil things like [I]Detect Magic[/I], since it says "This spell protects against all ... information gathering by divination spells or effects". The spell's flavour focuses on mind-affecting, but it also lists the area effect of scrying, which has nothing to do with the mind and is rather visual. [I]Detect Magic[/I] and its ilk are certainly "information gathering by divination" and are area effects that have nothing to do with the mind. So... what exactly is under the purview of [I]Mind Blank[/I]? What about the above two in regards to the monster abilities? [I]Cloak of Mystery[/I] only mentions "spells", while [I]Mind Blank[/I] says "spells or effects". I'd say the monster abilities certainly count as divination [I]effects[/I], so [I]Mind Blank[/I] should foil the monsters. Does the rest of the vague wording for [I]Cloak of Mystery[/I] allow the monster abilities to be covered by its protection? [/QUOTE]

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