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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1720461" data-attributes="member: 478">Why would that be?&nbsp;&nbsp;How can one train to pierce illusions, or see invisible things!? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;That's the point where I think a more accurate terminology is needed. True Seeing does not show you anything. It lets you see something. That's the difference I am talking about.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;Of course, I don't think I said anything else. Just tried to explain, why I think True Seeing is not an information gathering divination.&nbsp;&nbsp;It does not give you any information, really. It only negates magic which hinders your ability to obtain information. But the information you gain is nothing you could not normally gain, if the hindering magic wasn't there.&nbsp;&nbsp;Information gathering divinations, however, actually give you information about the subject.&nbsp;&nbsp;Otherwise even light would be an information gathering spell, or fireball (can it burn or not?), tho certainly not divinations. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;&nbsp;Bye&nbsp;Thanee</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1720461, member: 478"] Why would that be? How can one train to pierce illusions, or see invisible things!? ;) That's the point where I think a more accurate terminology is needed. True Seeing does not show you anything. It lets you see something. That's the difference I am talking about. Of course, I don't think I said anything else. Just tried to explain, why I think True Seeing is not an information gathering divination. It does not give you any information, really. It only negates magic which hinders your ability to obtain information. But the information you gain is nothing you could not normally gain, if the hindering magic wasn't there. Information gathering divinations, however, actually give you information about the subject. Otherwise even light would be an information gathering spell, or fireball (can it burn or not?), tho certainly not divinations. ;) Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]

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