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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 1721994" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>If you want to take the time to read True Seeing it has none of the descriptors listed in the Mind Blank spell, so by the rules Mind Blank cannot stop True Seeing, nor should it. Mind Blank has two purposes, to pretect your thoughts/mind and to keep you and info about you from being found by scrying. If mind blank works the way you seem to think it does then they would have said it simply negates all divination spells.</p><p></p><p>Now that ruling would be a munchkin/powergamer wet dream. One spell that can negate a whole class of spells!! Yippeee!! So if you are actually interested in game balance no one would try to imply or read into Mind Blank that it negates all Divination spells. Mind Blank is powerful enough as it is. At least it (true Seeing) can't detect magical auras or alignments like it could in 2e.</p><p></p><p>The description of mind blank is clearly meant to block scrying and mind controlling spells only, not all divination spells. Maybe they should of classified True Seeing as an Alteration spell, since it is a magical enhancement to vision. Then you would have no argument whatsoever, since True Seeing would no longer be in the school of Divination. As it is you are going against the obvious intent of the spell and its description and trying to rules lawyer something into it that isn't there to begin with.</p><p></p><p>Think about it, the arguments that True Seeing is an "information gathering spell" would lead to a DM having to rule Mind Blank negates ALL divination spells in order to be consistant with the "logic", because Divination as a school is ALL about information gathering in some way.</p><p></p><p>If True Seeing was meant to be an information gathering spell then why did they specifically disallow its use in conjunction with scrying spells?</p><p></p><p>You can try to make it seem logical, but it isn't. I'll stick with the obvious intent of Mind Blank and not try to squeeze any more power out of it, especially power that does not belong. Mind Blank is a pain as it is. I don't want to make a ruling that would allow someone to cast improved invisiblity or an illusion of being an Ancient Red Dragon on themselves and in combination with Mind Blank make these spells immune to saves/disbelief/detection or the power of True Seeing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 1721994, member: 10177"] If you want to take the time to read True Seeing it has none of the descriptors listed in the Mind Blank spell, so by the rules Mind Blank cannot stop True Seeing, nor should it. Mind Blank has two purposes, to pretect your thoughts/mind and to keep you and info about you from being found by scrying. If mind blank works the way you seem to think it does then they would have said it simply negates all divination spells. Now that ruling would be a munchkin/powergamer wet dream. One spell that can negate a whole class of spells!! Yippeee!! So if you are actually interested in game balance no one would try to imply or read into Mind Blank that it negates all Divination spells. Mind Blank is powerful enough as it is. At least it (true Seeing) can't detect magical auras or alignments like it could in 2e. The description of mind blank is clearly meant to block scrying and mind controlling spells only, not all divination spells. Maybe they should of classified True Seeing as an Alteration spell, since it is a magical enhancement to vision. Then you would have no argument whatsoever, since True Seeing would no longer be in the school of Divination. As it is you are going against the obvious intent of the spell and its description and trying to rules lawyer something into it that isn't there to begin with. Think about it, the arguments that True Seeing is an "information gathering spell" would lead to a DM having to rule Mind Blank negates ALL divination spells in order to be consistant with the "logic", because Divination as a school is ALL about information gathering in some way. If True Seeing was meant to be an information gathering spell then why did they specifically disallow its use in conjunction with scrying spells? You can try to make it seem logical, but it isn't. I'll stick with the obvious intent of Mind Blank and not try to squeeze any more power out of it, especially power that does not belong. Mind Blank is a pain as it is. I don't want to make a ruling that would allow someone to cast improved invisiblity or an illusion of being an Ancient Red Dragon on themselves and in combination with Mind Blank make these spells immune to saves/disbelief/detection or the power of True Seeing. [/QUOTE]
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