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<blockquote data-quote="Iku Rex" data-source="post: 1723319" data-attributes="member: 752">You're looking &quot;at&quot; two invisible people, with true seeing active. One is protected by mind blank, one isn't. If mind blank simply protects the caster from information gathering by divination spells, you can see one of them. If mind blank &quot;negates&quot; divination spells one could argue that you can't see any of them, as your true seeing has been &quot;negated&quot;. What if you want to use divination spells yourself? Can you do that if they're &quot;negated&quot;? This is self-irony, right? Please tell me it's self-irony...After all, you want the true seeing spell (lv 5/6/7) to negate the entire school of illusion, as well as parts of the transmutation school. With no possible defense. The subject is protected from all devices and spells that detect, influence, or read emotions or thoughts. This spell protects against all mind-affecting spells and effects as well as information gathering by divination spells or effects. If by &quot;information gathering by divination spells or effects&quot; they meant &quot;spells of the [scrying] subschool&quot;, why didn't they just say so? Another example: Discern location. Not mind-affecting. Not a scying spell. Yet mind blank protects against it. Funny that, given how mind blank is &quot;clearly&quot; meant to block scrying and mind controlling spells &quot;only&quot;...&nbsp;Had you been right, maybe they should. As it stands, they didn't. True seeing is not a transmutation spell. It gives you 120 feet of &quot;magical detection&quot;, regardless of darkness or illusions. Uh, yes. Allow me to quote the official FAQ: ...the general rule in the D&amp;D game favors defense over offense, so mind blank’s ability to block scrying and all forms of divination... -- page 56, official 3.0 DnD FAQ. (Context is discern location vs. mindblank, which was clarified in 3.5, but the relevant rule regarding divination spells has not changed.) (The 3.0 Sage ruling is different - he says mind blank does not protects against true seeing/see invisible, but nondetection does.)I fail to understand the question. If true seeing was meant to just &quot;enhance your vision&quot;, why doesn't it work with scrying? After all, &quot;the sensor has your full visual acuity&quot;. Nothing about being an &quot;information gathering spell&quot; implies that it should stack with all other &quot;information gathering spells&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Iku Rex, post: 1723319, member: 752"] You're looking "at" two invisible people, with true seeing active. One is protected by mind blank, one isn't. If mind blank simply protects the caster from information gathering by divination spells, you can see one of them. If mind blank "negates" divination spells one could argue that you can't see any of them, as your true seeing has been "negated". What if you want to use divination spells yourself? Can you do that if they're "negated"? This is self-irony, right? Please tell me it's self-irony... After all, [i]you[/i] want the true seeing spell (lv 5/6/7) to negate the entire school of illusion, as well as parts of the transmutation school. With no possible defense. [i]The subject is protected from all devices and spells that detect, influence, or read emotions or thoughts. This spell protects against all mind-affecting spells and effects [b]as well as information gathering by divination spells or effects[/b].[/i] If by "information gathering by divination spells or effects" they meant "spells of the [scrying] subschool", why didn't they just say so? Another example: Discern location. Not mind-affecting. Not a scying spell. Yet mind blank protects against it. Funny that, given how mind blank is "clearly" meant to block scrying and mind controlling spells "only"... Had you been right, maybe they should. As it stands, they didn't. True seeing is [i]not[/i] a transmutation spell. It gives you 120 feet of "magical detection", regardless of darkness or illusions. Uh, yes. Allow me to quote the official FAQ: [i]...the general rule in the D&D game favors defense over offense, so mind blank’s ability to block scrying and all forms of divination...[/i] -- page 56, official 3.0 DnD FAQ. (Context is discern location vs. mindblank, which was clarified in 3.5, but the relevant rule regarding divination spells has not changed.) (The 3.0 Sage ruling is different - he says mind blank does not protects against true seeing/see invisible, but nondetection does.) I fail to understand the question. If true seeing was meant to just "enhance your vision", why [i]doesn't[/i] it work with scrying? After all, [i]"the sensor has your full visual acuity"[/i]. Nothing about being an "information gathering spell" implies that it should stack with all other "information gathering spells". [/QUOTE]

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