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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5563892" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>Yup, two times. I dunno Oryan our stars must be in alignment or something...I'm liking/agreeing with everything from you today! lol. (honestly never really noticed if I haven't or didn't before. But today definitely.)</p><p></p><p>Especially agree with the last paragraph. I wouldn't dream of doing this. </p><p></p><p>I'd go in, knowing what I know...when I'm told "oh no, we do it this way" I'd say, "OH! Ok. Where do I find that?" and try to work it in...asking questions all the way for things I was unfamiliar with. </p><p></p><p>It's trite and cliche, but I've found over the years my 5th grade teacher was correct..."the only dumb question is the unasked question." So I'll ask about stuff I don't know/am unfamiliar with. There's no shame in asking questions about something you are unfamiliar with...whether it is considered, now, "errata" or not.</p><p></p><p>I would not presume to go in and "teach" or "change" a group I had just joined (nor would I want to)...I am also not narcissistic enough (and by narcissistic, I mean feel that my way is the "right/better/good" way) to believe my way is the right/better way...it may be<em> for me</em>. But that's all it is.</p><p></p><p>After some play, if I wasn't having fun their way...then I know the group may not be for me and, if I am unable to make certain changes with DM approval, I have a choice to make, for myself and my enjoyment of the game/group. </p><p></p><p>(Apologies for any unintentional offense in the above. I do not mean to insinuate the OP is "narcissistic", simply saying I am not/would not be in the above scenario of joining a new group. "Socially bad form" as Oryan says.) </p><p></p><p>But, again, whatever happens, good luck and happy gaming...however it goes for you.</p><p>--SD</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5563892, member: 92511"] Yup, two times. I dunno Oryan our stars must be in alignment or something...I'm liking/agreeing with everything from you today! lol. (honestly never really noticed if I haven't or didn't before. But today definitely.) Especially agree with the last paragraph. I wouldn't dream of doing this. I'd go in, knowing what I know...when I'm told "oh no, we do it this way" I'd say, "OH! Ok. Where do I find that?" and try to work it in...asking questions all the way for things I was unfamiliar with. It's trite and cliche, but I've found over the years my 5th grade teacher was correct..."the only dumb question is the unasked question." So I'll ask about stuff I don't know/am unfamiliar with. There's no shame in asking questions about something you are unfamiliar with...whether it is considered, now, "errata" or not. I would not presume to go in and "teach" or "change" a group I had just joined (nor would I want to)...I am also not narcissistic enough (and by narcissistic, I mean feel that my way is the "right/better/good" way) to believe my way is the right/better way...it may be[I] for me[/I]. But that's all it is. After some play, if I wasn't having fun their way...then I know the group may not be for me and, if I am unable to make certain changes with DM approval, I have a choice to make, for myself and my enjoyment of the game/group. (Apologies for any unintentional offense in the above. I do not mean to insinuate the OP is "narcissistic", simply saying I am not/would not be in the above scenario of joining a new group. "Socially bad form" as Oryan says.) But, again, whatever happens, good luck and happy gaming...however it goes for you. --SD [/QUOTE]
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