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<blockquote data-quote="PMárk" data-source="post: 7088538" data-attributes="member: 6804619"><p>All that is true and honestly, I like those examples, a lot. Yes, historical times weren't as sexist as we'd think today, or not in the way we're thinking they were. Yes, women had a lot more rights than we generally think and the social structure wasn't as rigid.</p><p></p><p>However, those and other examples are still the oddities, the outliners, mostly because most of the sexism came from the biological differences which influenced the culture much more than today, since they were much more physical times. So yes, sexism wasn't nearly as bad as we'd think, but the situation wasn't nowhere in the vicinity what progressives today would think as ideal and honestly, the way they're sometimes speaking about it is bordering on deliberate history falsification, IMO (don't get me wrong, you didn't do this, your post was quite sensible!). </p><p></p><p>I also think that this kind of sexism makes a lot less sense in a world with abundant magic. I like Wheel of time for that, it had sexism, but a different kind. So, in a D&D world, we get magic and adventurers as a thing and both dampens the impact of sexism based on physiology, I think. </p><p></p><p> Also yes, catering to the audience, who might don't want to deal with real-world baggage in the fun game is a perfectly valid reason. However, wanting do do a more "historically accurate" game, maybe with a low-level setting, or just because the discussion it generates in-and-out game about those cultural norms and issues is interesting to the players and GM is valid too. Just don't do it, if it genuinely hurts anyone at the table, because that doesn't worth it, but, I mean, discussing those things before starting the campaign is among the most basic things, no?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PMárk, post: 7088538, member: 6804619"] All that is true and honestly, I like those examples, a lot. Yes, historical times weren't as sexist as we'd think today, or not in the way we're thinking they were. Yes, women had a lot more rights than we generally think and the social structure wasn't as rigid. However, those and other examples are still the oddities, the outliners, mostly because most of the sexism came from the biological differences which influenced the culture much more than today, since they were much more physical times. So yes, sexism wasn't nearly as bad as we'd think, but the situation wasn't nowhere in the vicinity what progressives today would think as ideal and honestly, the way they're sometimes speaking about it is bordering on deliberate history falsification, IMO (don't get me wrong, you didn't do this, your post was quite sensible!). I also think that this kind of sexism makes a lot less sense in a world with abundant magic. I like Wheel of time for that, it had sexism, but a different kind. So, in a D&D world, we get magic and adventurers as a thing and both dampens the impact of sexism based on physiology, I think. Also yes, catering to the audience, who might don't want to deal with real-world baggage in the fun game is a perfectly valid reason. However, wanting do do a more "historically accurate" game, maybe with a low-level setting, or just because the discussion it generates in-and-out game about those cultural norms and issues is interesting to the players and GM is valid too. Just don't do it, if it genuinely hurts anyone at the table, because that doesn't worth it, but, I mean, discussing those things before starting the campaign is among the most basic things, no? [/QUOTE]
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